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Slackdaddy 12-21-2007 08:58 PM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
Corey,
goto:
http://www.prbullet.com/knhp.htm

They do as advertised, trust Me.
I use the 360 grain on 80 grains of Pyro RS in a T/C black diamond, leaves a baseball sized exit wound and a blood trail Stevie Wonder could follow.

Slack

gt2003 12-21-2007 09:39 PM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
Corey, I had the same problem that you are describing. Lost 3 deer after hours and hours of searching. I switched to the all lead precision rifle dead centers and have not lost a deer since. None have run over 30-40 yards. I kept hearing "it's the shot placement, blah, blah, blah". Bullet holes consistently touched with the XTP's, they just didn't kill deer quickly. I seriously doubt my shooting has improved that much at close range, less than 40 yards. It all had to do with the bullet for me. I don't like to be an a** but Iget sick of people talking s**t. I now use the precision rifle dead center 220 grain bullets and 80 grains of 777. I'm sure you've seen the posts but here is a picture of a bullet recovered from a buck that I shot this year, probably 25 yards, straight through the shoulder. It held together extremely well and he went down withing about 25 yds of where I shot him. I bet the 220 grainers will shoot pretty close to where the 240 xtp's shoot. If you want, email me and I can send you a few but they aren't cheap. Spend a little more on your bullet andfind one that will do thejob. Here's the bullet from "shoulder boy". See ya, Greg

gt2003 12-21-2007 09:47 PM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
OMG slackdaddy, I almost tried some of those this year. I just love the PR bullets. I hate to get away from the light bullets and reduced recoil though. Any pics from the KNHP's? Thanks, greg

corey012778 12-21-2007 11:31 PM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
I just getting started this year with ML. and getting my first deer with a $40 knight usak, pitting problems. I hit further back then I really wanting too, but it did the job. still got a lung shot. I got some bullets I have been working with that I may switch to finish the season with.


thank yall for all the help, putting up with all my crap.

I feel releaved, hell I was about to quite hunting :(

One under the belt. I hope more to go, mainly this season.

frontier gander 12-22-2007 12:37 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
Corey, practice by shooting off hand at the range more often. Also, what happens when you see a deer? Your heart starts pounding right? Run around for a bit, get your heart beat up and keep it up while you target practice.

corey012778 12-22-2007 12:50 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
depends on how my day went, if I had a very stressful day, like last monday with I the scope problems. which how my day went today it was fix.

I will try that, or just walk more often to the 100 yrd target, uphill about 25degrees

gleason.chapman 12-22-2007 02:40 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 

ORIGINAL: gt2003

Corey, I had the same problem that you are describing. Lost 3 deer after hours and hours of searching. I switched to the all lead precision rifle dead centers and have not lost a deer since. None have run over 30-40 yards. I kept hearing "it's the shot placement, blah, blah, blah". Bullet holes consistently touched with the XTP's, they just didn't kill deer quickly. I seriously doubt my shooting has improved that much at close range, less than 40 yards. It all had to do with the bullet for me. I don't like to be an a** but Iget sick of people talking s**t. I now use the precision rifle dead center 220 grain bullets and 80 grains of 777. I'm sure you've seen the posts but here is a picture of a bullet recovered from a buck that I shot this year, probably 25 yards, straight through the shoulder. It held together extremely well and he went down withing about 25 yds of where I shot him. I bet the 220 grainers will shoot pretty close to where the 240 xtp's shoot. If you want, email me and I can send you a few but they aren't cheap. Spend a little more on your bullet andfind one that will do thejob. Here's the bullet from "shoulder boy". See ya, Greg
It is about placement, penetration, expansion and shoot thru. Dead centers are good and they sure worked for you by the looks of that pancaked 220g. I tried the 340g about 4 years ago, and had a difficult getting down the bore, also not a lot of people were carrying them at that time, now Cabelas does and calls it Cabela's Dead Centers (same bullet). They are a bit soft for me, since I like 'expanded head and long shanks" in a fully expanded bullet. I think a lot of folks experienced what you did, I fdid and my son didwiththe PBs, and once you get a really >>strong<< >>accurate<< bullet the world changes, but you didn't. That is what happened to me with the Nosler Partition. They hit and hit hard and they shoot thru, and they leave a big hole and they expand well and penetrate well andwith NO fragmentaion. I agree, shooting them in the chest at 25 and 40 yards and loosing the deer because of bullet fragmentation, non-pass thru, etc is a VERY VERY discouraging situation---wanting to give up hunting and feeling like that. Nobody wants to shoot God's creatures and have them suffer.
Best Wishes,
Chap Gleason

gt2003 12-22-2007 07:10 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
Well said Chap! I agree 100%. Once you find something that works and works well it makes ML hunting a LOT of fun. Discouraging and upsetting otherwise. Buy quality and figure what your gun will shoot well. Good luck Corey, Greg

corey012778 12-22-2007 08:47 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
I am going to try a gold dot next time.

little up date. skinned and 1/4 the deer. got looking one shot was a gut shot. the other was a lung. I don't feel too bad now about shooting it twice. both passed thru. one left the same size enter and exit. the other the enter look almost like I grazed it, the exit was just a little larger but no by much. it broke a rib.

STILL DID NOT HIT ANY MEAT :D;)

I went on and cut down the back straps into small roast. I am going to work on the hams and fronts tommarow if not monday.

I am ready to go out and get another deer. lol

falcon 12-22-2007 09:05 AM

RE: GOT MY FIRST DEER
 
Congrats on the deer.


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