RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Heres 2 recovered powerbelts from my range. These were recovered after i shot 3 rounds. 225 grain powerbelt aerotips driven by 70 grains pyrodex P @ 58 yards. These bullets hit inside my rock cave that i shoot into. As you can see, When shooting a lower charge, these bullets mushroom like they should and will do an excellent job on game.

This one lost some weight, But common! It hit solid stone with no give to it! Both of these recovered bullets were the size of quarters.

Unfired powerbelt. Take notice to picture 1 and the unused powerbelt and look at the #'s on the scale.

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

my first year of muzzle loading was a mistake using power belts also
I now use 240 gr. Precision Rifle Dead Center Bullet

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

The 80g of 777 did it for you FG. I was talking about people shooting 150g charges, when you push the PB that hard they fly apart on ribs and any bone you hit. Thanks for reading my pages, and your editorial review!!! There a a lotta folks that swear by PBs, but I believe it is just a matter of time before they start having bad experiences. I shot them for 2 years and got several deer with no problems, then I had a week like Chris had and I had to find an answer. So folks blame me--taking poor shots, but most of the shot where I lost deer were cake shots of 50 yards and when the smoke cleared no deer and no blood trail. You kneep using them. I will continue to use the Noslers, Gold Dots, Parker Ballistic Extremes and Barnes---I will be testing Expanders, XPB Pistol bullets and Triple Shock X bullets for the 45-70 in my Savage after hunting season.
Chap Gleason

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Again you shot 70g, which is a good speed for a PB, Pglasgow says <= 1400 fps. Why does PB publish this:

http://www.powerbeltbullets.com/docs/PBB26inchballistics.pdf and all these for it ballistics,

http://www.powerbeltbullets.com/ballistic.html

when you know that 100g and 150g is too hard for them? My brother mailed back a fragmented PB that he found on the ground with a large buck hit at 30 yards (not recovered)and about 10 packages of the things last year, and I have read on the web of several people complaining to the company in the same manner, so they are aware of "pushing them too hard".


I believe you are telling people how to use them properly by slowing the PB down, I believe I am also telling people how to usePB properly if the want to go away from the PB to another bullet.


Chap Gleason

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Hey there, I am new to ML as well and have done a fair amount range work. I read the Encore like the Barnes Spit Fire 245g since they are a little smaller diameter and since the omega and encore barrels are just a little bit small then most other ML barrels the Barnes 245 g spit fire should work well for you. They have for me (omega)

Also the ever popular Shockwaves are a good back up, since T/C makes these for there guns, well actually Hornady manufactures them for T/C I think.

I have yet to try the gold’s or the speed dot’s but plan to.

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Three--I want the bullet to exit. Entrance wound is small unless the bullet was to blow-up on contact--exit should be large.

Two holes-More Blood.

Used the Speer 300 grain Uni-Cor SP this year on two deer:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...?sku=000214485

One went 25 yards since he was going downhill and the other was boom-flop. Bullet expands very well with a muzzle velocity of 1800 plus.

Details:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.a...&key=&#2474207

Doug

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Amen, we got 3 believers in "strong accurate exiting expandingbullets that retain nearly 100% of wight". Chap

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

I was just reading through some of the newer post and see
mention of the Precision Rifle's Dead Center bullets mentioned
How are they anyway..My son just got me some of them in
200 grain for my new toy when it arrives...

They say they are pure lead,with a orange tip on them as well
as an orange sleeve...He got them at Cabelas..They come 12
in a package....

You can find them T WWW.prbullet.com

Controled expansion-for complete penetration out to 275 yards..

Anyone use them other than Stretch56???????????????

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Johnny, I use them exclusively now. I shoot an old knight wolverine 50 caliber with the #11 cap. I am shooting the 220 grain dead center and 80 grains of 777 ffg. I had terrible trouble with the 300 grain hornady xtp's (although I know a lot of people love them). They shot great but didn't seem to do any damage to the deer I shot. They would run forever. I was at the point of giving up ML'ing until I found the dead centers. Here are a few pics of the dead centers I have recovered from the deer I have shot, none have gone over 30-40 yards. See what you think, Greg

RE: Black Powder Bullets
 

Amen. The PR DC are a good bullet, accurate as heck in some rifles. I have shot them, they didn't group well enough for me. Chap