Post your shot group pics here...
07-31-2007, 09:18 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Post your shot group pics here...
Hi Guys,
I just got into muzzleloading...been hunting 30 years with the bow otherwise...I've been getting 2" to 3" inch groups out of my new stainless omega with 3 pellets of 777 and 250 grain shockwaves...I also tried 2 pellets with the same bullet with the same results...I was kinda hoping that I would be cloverleafing 3 to 5 shot groups at that distance...Are my expectations to high? Any suggestions for tightening up the groups? I allready blew off about 100 rounds...Oh by the way, I have been swabing between every shoty 1 wet patch 2 dry...and have been shooting off a very solid bench rest..
Thank you in advance for any suggestions...
I just got into muzzleloading...been hunting 30 years with the bow otherwise...I've been getting 2" to 3" inch groups out of my new stainless omega with 3 pellets of 777 and 250 grain shockwaves...I also tried 2 pellets with the same bullet with the same results...I was kinda hoping that I would be cloverleafing 3 to 5 shot groups at that distance...Are my expectations to high? Any suggestions for tightening up the groups? I allready blew off about 100 rounds...Oh by the way, I have been swabing between every shoty 1 wet patch 2 dry...and have been shooting off a very solid bench rest..
Thank you in advance for any suggestions...
07-31-2007, 10:32 PM
#2
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 686
RE: Post your shot group pics here...
firearms are like people, some like one thing while others like somethingcompletelydifferent. My advice is to switch to loose powder and experiment with different bullets, bullet weights and powder charges. You'll eventually find something your riflereally likes. It's just going to take some time at the range.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
07-31-2007, 10:33 PM
#3
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
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RE: Post your shot group pics here...
Is this a scoped rifle? A lot of times a rifle takes time to break in or the shooter time to get used to the rifle but it sounds like you covered all that. I would suggest some loose powder. Start at 90 grains, shoot a group, and then swab. If you're not happy, add five grains and shoot another group. Also don'r forget to try bullets other then a Shockwave. Maybe some XTP's, Gold Dots, Nosler, Barnes, even powerbelts...
Welcome to the forum and good luck.
Welcome to the forum and good luck.
07-31-2007, 10:36 PM
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RE: Post your shot group pics here...
Your gun should like 300 grain XTP Mag bullets and 110 grains American Pioneer Powder. Mine can shoot a 3/4 inch group at 100 yards with open sights.
experiment, experiment, experiment......
experiment, experiment, experiment......
08-01-2007, 05:19 AM
#5
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Post your shot group pics here...
ORIGINAL: gl79149
Hi Guys,
I just got into muzzleloading...been hunting 30 years with the bow otherwise...I've been getting 2" to 3" inch groups out of my new stainless omega with 3 pellets of 777 and 250 grain shockwaves...I also tried 2 pellets with the same bullet with the same results...I was kinda hoping that I would be cloverleafing 3 to 5 shot groups at that distance...Are my expectations to high? Any suggestions for tightening up the groups? I allready blew off about 100 rounds...Oh by the way, I have been swabing between every shoty 1 wet patch 2 dry...and have been shooting off a very solid bench rest..
Thank you in advance for any suggestions...
Hi Guys,
I just got into muzzleloading...been hunting 30 years with the bow otherwise...I've been getting 2" to 3" inch groups out of my new stainless omega with 3 pellets of 777 and 250 grain shockwaves...I also tried 2 pellets with the same bullet with the same results...I was kinda hoping that I would be cloverleafing 3 to 5 shot groups at that distance...Are my expectations to high? Any suggestions for tightening up the groups? I allready blew off about 100 rounds...Oh by the way, I have been swabing between every shoty 1 wet patch 2 dry...and have been shooting off a very solid bench rest..
Thank you in advance for any suggestions...
http://www.the-gleasons.com/this_is_my_savage_10_ml_page.htm
Of the 8 bullets tried, the 300g SW gave the best group followed by the 275g parker Ballistic Extreme. You need a tight sabot, but not so tight it can't get down a dirty barrel. Loose sabots shoot all over the place.
Chap Gleason
08-01-2007, 05:23 AM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Post your shot group pics here...
ORIGINAL: Chris W.
firearms are like people, some like one thing while others like somethingcompletelydifferent. My advice is to switch to loose powder and experiment with different bullets, bullet weights and powder charges. You'll eventually find something your riflereally likes. It's just going to take some time at the range.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
firearms are like people, some like one thing while others like somethingcompletelydifferent. My advice is to switch to loose powder and experiment with different bullets, bullet weights and powder charges. You'll eventually find something your riflereally likes. It's just going to take some time at the range.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
Chap Gleason
08-01-2007, 05:59 AM
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: Post your shot group pics here...
Your gun will clover leaf at 100...Throw away the sabots and get some loose powder, start with 90 grains and go up in 10 grain increments...Find the sweet spot with the powder charge and then tweek the powder charge up and down in 5 grain increments...
08-01-2007, 07:51 AM
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Illinois
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RE: Post your shot group pics here...
Heres a 50 yard group from my CVA Wolf, target was a 6 inch "shoot n c". Pretty tight......roughly 3 inches highat 50
50yrds
100gr Pyrodex pellets
250gr Kight Red Hot
Crushed Rib sabot
209 Rem Kleen Bore
50yrds
100gr Pyrodex pellets
250gr Kight Red Hot
Crushed Rib sabot
209 Rem Kleen Bore
08-01-2007, 11:37 AM
#10
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 686
RE: Post your shot group pics here...
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ORIGINAL: Chris W.
firearms are like people, some like one thing while others like somethingcompletelydifferent. My advice is to switch to loose powder and experiment with different bullets, bullet weights and powder charges. You'll eventually find something your riflereally likes. It's just going to take some time at the range.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
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1 1/4 and 1 1/8 are excellent groups and the Barnes Expander is one great bullet. I wish my new Savage shot the Barnes TMZ 290g as well as your's does the Expander. I agree it is nice to have options. You always have the Barnes Expander to "fall back on" it you don't find a more accurate bullet. I think it is going to be hard to beat that bullet and that group, you might do it with a SW.
Chap Gleason
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ORIGINAL: Chris W.
firearms are like people, some like one thing while others like somethingcompletelydifferent. My advice is to switch to loose powder and experiment with different bullets, bullet weights and powder charges. You'll eventually find something your riflereally likes. It's just going to take some time at the range.
These two groups were shot out of my Knightrolling block using a 250 gr.Barnes expander and 110 gr ofloose, FFF triple seven. I plan on heading back to the range soon to tweek the charge a bitand try acouple of different bulletsso see what else maybe shoots well. It's always nice to have options.
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1 1/4 and 1 1/8 are excellent groups and the Barnes Expander is one great bullet. I wish my new Savage shot the Barnes TMZ 290g as well as your's does the Expander. I agree it is nice to have options. You always have the Barnes Expander to "fall back on" it you don't find a more accurate bullet. I think it is going to be hard to beat that bullet and that group, you might do it with a SW.
Chap Gleason
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