Get a used TC Off of gun broker or auction arms,$250-$300 .50 will do .54 is better.If the lock has problems or anything else goes wrong,TC will fix or replace it free.I have 2 renegades and 1 hawken put together from parts off ebay.One flintlock,2 percussion,1 hawken that I got used 30 years ago and 1 new factory hawken flintlockI got new last year,another renegade,a renegade stock without a barrel,and a hawken barrel without a stock.I have 2 CVA mountain rifles,one of these is going to be converted to flint in the near future. Flintlocks are addictive so beware.

So you don't think he was told that by the fellas he hunts with? Or that it is BS that the fellas he hunts with believes that? Or that they ever tried other brands to even know? Maybe TC and Lyman are just easier to work with... or is that BS?

And I call BS on your BS... I doubt very much that that is "the biggest bunch of BS ive ever read"... I can think of a few posts that might qualify though!

"don't get any other brand, they work up here, the others don't go off in the snow, sleet and windy conditions."


Anyone who says that and actually believes it, is well....... You fill in the blank. As for tc or lyman being easier to work with, I dont think theres any flintlock out there thats made easier to work with if you dont have a clue how they work or what you're doing.
Buy an original hawkens, The original kentucky rifles dont go off in snow, sleet or wind.
BTW, you guys really need to get over what i said about idahos sidelock rules. Its my opinion, if you dont like it, to bad. No reason to start crying because you didnt like what some other guy said. IMO, if you guys would spend more time fighting with idahos law makers, instead of people on the net, you guys probably would get their ruling resolved a lot faster. Dont B itch about what people on the net say, If you're a resident of idaho or hunt in idaho,and you dont agree with their laws, argue with them about it. Dont go attacking people on the net who have different opinions.

Can't comment on anything but T/C, as that's all the production flinters I ever owned. They have been very dependable, and shoot well if you ignore T/C's priming recommendations and prime them properly. I had a Renegade in the late 70's or early 80's, and it was dependable. I had a Firestorm in more recent years, and with some experimenting as to what it liked in loading teqnique it was oftenas fast as a caplock on ignition.
I had a custom smoothbore made a few years back and the barrel was drilled & threaded the same as T/C for the vent liner. The liners furnished were slow to ignite the main charge. I replaced the liner with a T/C liner and ignition was really improved!

FG, I was just have a little fun with your definite BS comment... giving you a lttle ribbing...

Of course that quote I posted comes back to mind..."often wrong, but never in doubt".

I just couldn't resits

Just got back in from shooting the mtn rifle. Man is it humid. It feels like digusting texas humidity where you step outside and it feels like someone threw a bucket of water on you lol. Also learned something, Make sure your frizzen spring isnt pressed up against the rubber on your rifle rest or else it wont open
Did some shooting in a light drizzle too. Now that was fun, i enjoyed that kind of weather. I know u were just funnin with me flatland hunter.

I shoot Thompson Center, Lyman, and Traditions, flintlock rifles. Of all the rifles, I like the Lyman the best for hunting and the Tradtions is becoming a fast favorite on the shooting range.

Any of those brands are going to work for you just fine. I would personally get a .54 caliber. If you are able to tote a heavy rifle, then the Great Plains is the rifle I would get. In .54 caliber. Get a 1-60 twist. And after your hooked, get a barrel in 1-32 for about $ 140.00 then you have the best of both worlds.

The rifle for the best finish will be the Thompson Center. The worst finish will be the Lyman as they come oiled and expect you to oil them to the shine level you like. I like my Lyman just fine the way it came. All of them will work fine.

Thanks to all for the input.

Hey cayugad, I tried looking up your old posts to see what Lyman model you have,what caliber/twist, and if you had posted any targets. You have so much good stuff out there that I kept getting distracted reading things other than what I was looking for. So maybe you can just tell me. I might have seen a post on your Lyman and just don't remember it.

My memory isn't as good as it used to be. Besides that, my memory isn't as good as it used to be.

I use a .54 caliber Lyman Trade Rifle with a 1:48 twist. I shoot 90 grains of Goex 2f and a patched .530 roundball. With this load anything 75 yards and closer if I have any kind of a rest, like a tree, my sticks, or in my blind, will be having a very bad day.

Heres a list of rifles.

www.flintlocks.com

These beat the crap out of all the production made rifles lol.