A new White for CDad!!!
 

I purchased anew, unfiredWhite-Lightning last night. Should be coming my direction in 2 or 3 weeks. It will have nice company with my two UltraMags. I really wasn't in the market, but I just could not pass it up. Here is the description from Doc White's site. :):):):):)

the WHITE-LIGHTNING rifle
The rarest WHITE rifle, so rare I didnt even have one in my collection for a while. Only 2000 were made in 1994 and all were sold in 1995 for less than $299 each. Wilson made the barreled actions and did such a great job that no Lightning rifle has ever been returned because of accuracy problems. I have never had one traded in, ever!
The barrel and action were one piece in one inch diameter, the only caliber was 504 with a slightly tapered 22 inch barrel , the lightweight SG-series action (SG means Small G) was a mirror image of the Whitetail and Bison actions only with the cocking handle on the right and the trigger safety on the left. Internal parts were otherwise the same as all other G-Series rifles except the hammer, which the idiot machinists made slightly larger. Stocks were lightweight Birch, painted black with a rubber recoil pad. Weight was right at 6 lbs. I never saw an inaccurate one.

WhiteLightnings are available only occasionally. I have had only a few for trade. This is a photo of a customer's White Lightning.

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Ya know that lightning is gona feel like a feather compaired to ur other whites. But be carefull, it could knock the snot bubbles out a ya.:)

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Are you trying to corner the market on all the White Rifles out there? I thought about one of them but the next White will be a .451 Super 91-II. That Lightening I have read are sweet shooters. I will be waiting for your first range report C-dad.

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cayugad

Cdad is celebrating, his son is doing so well in track winning his events, Cdad decided he would celebrate Matt's success so he bought himself a present for giving Matt all that talent..... He says he "fought the urge" but it overwhelmed him.. took about dat . long and he ordered it....

I guess a guy can never have to many Whites....

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Actually that is a nice little rifle. I can't blame C-dad for getting one. And Sabotloader is no one to talk, when it comes to buying guns. Its just his wife must be an angel to put up with him, his constant purchases,and his multi colored stock..

C-dad I heard they have a smaller bore then the Ultra Mag, so you might need to get some .503 bullets. Bullshop made me a bunch of them in .460 and I have been shooting them out of my Black Diamond XR with some real good results. Maybe one of the current lightening owners can tell you what size you get. I am sure it will be a good shooter, like all the other Whites.

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I really look forward to getting this gun and shooting it. I am very curious about the recoil, being it is so light. Sure will be a dream to pack though.

Cayugad, I have been thinking about a 91, but have been able to talk myself out of it. I have also been thinking about the Lightnings, but never thought I would see one like this. When these popped up, I knew I only had a few hours to decide or it would be to late.

I really haven't had a desire for a .451. A guy I work with has a .451 97 with laminated thumbhole stock that he would sell me. I don't know what the price, maybe too high, but I just have never been serious about it.

Jason said he might have some .503 460s he can send me. We'll see.

I need to shoot!!!!!!!!!

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CDady, CDady, kinda sounds like a rapper

My brother shoots the same bullets in his WL as I do in the Whitetails, NE's shoot good, the 510 grain ones I cast are sized to .5035.

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Your brother is too busy to shoot, so maybe I should just get his stash. Actually, my brother has a BUNCH of lead. May have to get you some of it and have you make me some bullets. Some of the .5035's for the WL and some of the .5045's for the U-M's. That is IF you ever get that other mold. Only another month or two I think. [:@]

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That is a very nice looking rifle. Lets see some pictures of how it shoots at 100, with big bullets.
Chap Gleason

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And don't forget some pics of the big bruise on ur shoulder.

Won't matter what mold I use, only have one sizer and it is .5035.

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U guyz din't git yer moldz yet? ;)

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UC, are you holding out on us???

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Maybe you just got the prototype mold?? Test it good so the production molds will be perfect.[8D]

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GB, you are slow, real slow. How long you know UC now? :eek:

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Long enough to know I can raz him a little now and then.

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Holy cow...I didn't know only 2000 were made.
I just checked the serial number on mine, it's well barely into the triple digits. Maybe I should consider retiring it from everyday use.

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Have I known you long enough?

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No way popeye,shoot it!!!! And post a few pictures too.

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Ah thank Cdad wuz prolly rite. Needed another tenth of an inch.

Bullets are going to be light but should still fly guud.

Ever try to calculate the volume of a bullet based upon a dimensional drawing? An ah aint gawt 1 o dem facy CAD thangz. :eek:

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UC
I thought they were going to be around 475 gr or something.

I have no doubt you can calculate the volume. You are a smart feller with way too much time. And as much stuff as you do with drawings, you should have a CAD program!

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[/quote] Have I known you long enough?
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One way to find out

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Oh my! Din't relize datah copied mor'n ah mint ta. :D

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You owe me a new keyboard!!!!!!

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Mine looks like the one in the original post except except it wears regular blued Weaver style bases and rings mounted with a fixed 4x Tasco scope that a bought new with the gun in back in 95.

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cdad as you know I just traded bat my Lam U Mag for his Lightning. I own a Syn U Mag and now I own two of these Lightnings. I liked the first one so much I did the trade. Both of these Lightnings will shoot every bit as good as the U Mag. Although the recoil is quite a bit more than the U Mags but nothing that should bother you. If I shoot anything but Trip 7 fff I use a wad. These guns will shoot the RS, P, and Trip 7 with excellent accuracy. It is true they have a tighter bore than the U Mags. The 504s are tight but they shoot the lights out with them. The no excuses which are a 503 seems a little to loose but shoot awsome so if you can get Dan to cast you some 503.5 you should be good to go. I've got about 400 of the 504s left in 460grn but as soon as I start getting low my next order with Dan will be for some of the 503.5s in the 460grn. If you want a gun you can pack all day long in the mountains you could not find a better one than the Lightning. As savagescout knows I suck with computers and pictures. My last outing with the new Lightning and 1 power scope I had my last six shots making one big hole at 65 yards. This was with 70grns of P and a wad and the #11 remington caps. E-mail me if you have any more questions. My e-mail is [email protected].

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CDad, here's a 3 shot group shot at 75 yards with my Lightning. I was using 70gr t73f, lubed felt wad, 496gr NEW and a RWS 1075 cap.

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You guys have my blood pumping to get this gun. Super is going to do the trigger at 3 to 3 1/2 lbs. He is also going to bed it for me and I think it has had more beafy lugs put on it. It should be a good one.

I do have an assortment of .504's from Bullshop. No 460's, sabotloader has shot them all at clay pigeons and golf balls!!!! :eek: I have about 75 of the 500 gr that Cayugad likes so much. A new pound of 777 2f and 2 lbs of Swiss 3f. :):):)

Can't wait to shoot some of those 620 gr out of a 6 lb gun. Too bad RC isn't here to share the "recoil fun" with me.

I think I'll throw a scope on the Lightning before too long so I can have some nice friendly competition with sabotloader. Now that I have made that threat, he'll be hitting the range every day for the next month preparing......just like last time. :D

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Cdad

Ya but, Ya but, at least I am a shootin' I do have a couple boxes of 503 No excuses and still have most of a box ofDan's 504 - 400 grain (yours) and I have a very few of the 460 - 504's (also yours) but you can't have them, well I guess you could if you really wanted them.If you are going to throw an order together for bullshop Dan let me know I'll add a few pounds unless you are ordering the full 500 for yourselfish.

You shore enuf like punishment... have u ever replced the headlight in the subur yet or are you still just getting out and a hittin da fender? Leave that fer your wife again with a bad headlight and you might find a real source of punishment..

I do have a new Sightron 3x9x40 S1 scope if you might be interested... There is no fear here i still got cha because I have a secret factor... and by the way the truck is still dirty. Actually I do not know if the scope would help you dat much, it wouldhelp Matt though, he is an athlete.

It does look like I might be over next week end if Rik's AC unit gets here from GE. But it might also be awfull busy, I started back to work for the Forest Service also and that is burning some of my time. I almost got a Turkey yesterday morning driving up the Palouse River, but it wasn't with a gun... the stupid thing almost flew into the grill of the FS truck I was driving, you can not imagine the paper work I would have to do if that had happened, it would not have been worth a turkey...

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Speaking of Bullshop 620's;). Here's a nice 5 shot group out of my Lightning.

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Nimrodder.. that is some excellent shooting there. I hear you all talk about the Lightening and how well they shoot. I was tempeted to get one of them when they came up for sale, but I just bought another flintlock, so I thought I better pass. Besides, that Ultra Mag of mine shoots them .504 caliber conicals so well, I just about get tired of shooting it. Plus I really someday want to get a .451 caliber White. I think that would be a great rifle as well. If Bat can knock a monster wild boar down with that "squirrelgun" of his,it would sure take whitetail out. And I am guessing at some impressive distances as well.

I understand when Sabotloader says he gets tired of punching holes in paper. Had you keep shooting I would have guess you would have just made a better hole. Or if you're like me, you have a flier and ruin the whole works. I have gotten to where I was putting soda pop cans on their sides and blasting them, and hanging things off the string in the target trap to blast.

That really is some outstanding shooting there. Is that with open sights or a scope?

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I had a 1.5-6X42 Loopy on the Lightning. I need some new iron's on the gun, can't get get the POI high enough because I ran out of adjustment.

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My brother recently bought an UltraMag, now he is a lurking member here (WhiteSkagit). Only a matter of time before he is on here giving me fits. He and sabotloader will be ganging up on me I imagine.

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Oh yea.....received the Lightning last night. Only had a fewminutes to get aquainted, but I like what I saw/felt. They are supposed to weight about 6 lbs. I will weigh it tonight just for fun. Bob adjusted the trigger and bedded it before he sent it to me. The trigger feels like about 2 lbs, but will check that also.

Hopefully will have time to take a closer look at it tonight and maybe be able to post a few photos.

Can't wait to shoot it. Hopefully this weekend. You coming over again sabotloader??? :)

You can bring me that Mueller scope while you are at it.

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congrats on the new lightening. I am sure Bob did a perfect job on the bedding and such. That should be an excellent rifle. Although if you have any concerns you can send it to me and I would be glad to test it for you... no charge. :D

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Cdad here you are a young big strong man with a 6# rifle
Dave is right send it to Wi. to one of the ol farts here.
RC

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Thanks guys. Glad to know I have such fine friends.:)

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Cdad

They are second and third in line - member I already asked....I'm firsteses...

No, not this coming weekend maybe next week, Reilyn graduates from Kindergarten on Wednesday afternoon - but I am here now and it is getting to be darn hot here.... north Idaho is cooler come over there, and bring that new gun....

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She weighs in at 6 lbs, 5 oz. The trigger breaks at 1 lb, 12 oz.:)

Personally, I like these sites WAY better than the fiber optics on the U-Ms. Have to shoot it some before I decide if I want to put a peep on it.

Can't wait to shoot it. Maybe this weekend.

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It's been a while since I have made it out shooting, but after receiving the White Lightning this past week I was determined.

Also brought along the 223 NEF.

There was the usual Tri Cities wind of about 10-15 mph.









Started shooting at 70 yards, hoping to be on the paper and it was. Adjusted rear site prior to 4th target, shooting at 100 yards.

The .504s are VERY tight. I think I am getting some 460 gr .503 N.E. from sabotloader this week.If those are the right fit, I will place an order with Bullshop.

I must say, this little gun is awesome. As I said,it weighs in at 6 lb5 oz and will be aDREAM to carry hunting. Barrel is 22" long. Trigger is under 2 lbs and is awesome for shooting targets. Will probably adjust up prior to hunting season. Recoil was pretty substancial, but did not cause a problem.

I just nowlooked at the first three targets a little closer. I am amazed that I used2 different powdersand 2 differentloads and if I look at all 10 shots taken at 70 yards they areall within 4". I shot 4 times at the third target because the first one was the high one. Then I changed my safety glasses from sunglasses to regular and shot the two that were touching. I thought, "Dang, need to go for more touching." Well, the next one didn't.

And..............no sabotloader, cayugad, redcluband goatbrother, I am not going to send it to you. :D

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Beautiful gun, I love theSS barrel on Black stockand not bad shooting with open sights at 70 yards. I can't tell how your group size is because your targets have no lines on them, but that is excellent for first time shooting the gun. You have two of them right? Why two are they different models? Chap Gleason