It is not a question of proof. The problem is I am in WV and he is in Indiana. And the police here, and the police there do not care. I have all the e-mails and the cancelled check, the problem is we are close to 500 miles apart. Tom.

I am not giving you legal advice as I am not an attorney but I would agree that it does sound as if youhave a strong civil case against this person. The problem is do you want to go through all the bother to take him to small claims court (what is is called in Wisconsin). Filing a complaint is normally not a large investment, and many times small business people do not want a claim to go against them, so they settle out of court. You might get at least something back that way.

Being 500 miles away, you would have to drive there to appear in court when it finally came up on the docket, and that could take years depending on the court calendar. Although it is a way to be a real thorn in his side. He would have to gamble that he could prove his case, or hire an attorney and that would cost him money as well. It might be worth a 500 mile trip. Any frequent flyer miles... ?

When it would come to small claims, some states allow you to collect more then the amount you were cheated out of. Whether Indiana does this again, I have no knowledge of.

Be sure and see if Indiana has a better business bureau and file a complaint against him as well. While they would investigate the complaint, they have no jurisdiction or authorityto order him to return the money. What they do is basically check his side, and investigate if there is indeed acomplaint. And many States have a hit list he would be added on. So for instance, if I wanted a stock carved and checked the better business bureau for him, it would come back that he had a complaint and I could then see what happened.

I am a handicapped person, and a trip that far would be a major event. If it was ten years ago I would have already made the trip. I would not have needed the police or the courts. I would have taken it out of his axx. Tom.

Tom, if you sent the check via USPS - get them involved. His behavior is criminal.

I sent the check with the rifle. I shipped them both UPS. I talked to UPS and they do not care. I do plan on calling the BBB. I will provide them with my copies of the e-mails. There is more than enough proof in my e-mails. I also plan on contacting Knight, along with any gunsmith organizations I can find. He is listed as Buckskin in several places. Tom.

Contact the state Attorney General, They MAYBE can help you.
As I stated in a post farther up I had to do this with a person in Ohio and I did get my money back.

I did it on line, the internet.

Al

Get your rifle and money back. Once it's back in your hands, post the name and address of this guy. Let the whole world know that neither his service, nor Tony Knights word is worth squat.

The scripture says that every man's sin is his own. So lets see what this means. Clearly the fellow has sinned againstTom and wronged him greatly, in fact since he is handicapped he needs some help here. Tony Knight may not have know that this man was not reputable, so Tony should be alerted also so he no longer recommends the man. Tony did no sin in my mind. When the signers of the Constitution signed their name, they called their honor "sacred" (a man's word ishis bond---let your yes be yes and your no be no is what the Bible says)no man should have his sacred honor publicallysmeared without going to him as Matthew says 1st 1 on 1, and if he repents you have won a friend, if he don't take two and if he repents then you have won a friend, but if he doen't throw him out of the church (or the brotherhood of ML in our case). I would claim that that is the way to act toward a fellow muzzleloader, give him the benefit of the doubt, but make him aware of it. If he said "I had no Idea, I am so sorry this happen to you, can I help", then you have won a friend. But if he gets angry, thenbring two and say what this man has done to you. If he still says get out of my face, they he is worthy of public ridicule and his sacred honor would be tarnished by his own actions.
Chap Gleason

Head, sorry to hear it, I was hoping for a happy ending. I think we should all call and tell the guy what POS he is. But it won't help things any.

Does anyone live maybe 1 hour from the guy and could pay him a visit with Power of Attorney or something like that to get his money back. That would be an awsome thing to do. Does anyone know a lawyer who is willing to make a phone call or do pro bono work. Does anyone know a state police or local police in his town who would be willing to stop by.
I got action on aneBay sale that was not delivered to me by calling the local police, the went by and ask about things and I got delivery on the thing within a week. Chap Gleason