I have a 200yd range and was busting burnt out Flood Lamps at 125yds with the Knight "Wolverine" converted to "Large Rifle Primers"and 240gr XTP's/ 90grs Pyrodex RS. Have been using same 15yrs for hunting. Now, the CVA "Apollo Eclipise" w/capswill only do it at about 90to 100yds.

Going to see what the Power Belts will do!

I know my Omega will group tighter, just not with me behind the trigger

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v445/HuntAway/?action=view&current=Zero50Cal2.bmp

While this group was shot at 75 yards, not 100, it shows that even a sidelock with a peep sight can shoot much better groups than what your getting.



This 3 shot group was shot at 75 yards off a bench from a Lyman GPH 50 using a peep sight. Load was 460 No Excuse bullet over 70gr of 777 3F. Measured .280 center to center. Orange dot is 2" diameter. I did swab between shots using a spit patch.

Good luck finding a load.

Wish Preacher was still around.

Thanks eldeguello,that 300 yd was with a savage ML,I haven't tried any other ML past 200yds but have gotten some pretty good groups at 200 with the encore and a knight 45 cal.
I did one time years ago make a long,long shot on an eleven point buck with a T/C senaca 45 cal that would make my savage look bad.It was more of an accident than skill,think the buck just wanted to die and just walked into the path of the bullet.
I did some horse trading back in the winter and came out with a knight 45 cal disc rifle,I need to start working on it pretty soon and see what it will do,I had one before got it to shooting some one hole groups and the first time I took it got a deer at 170 yds useing the 225 gr PB.The one I had before had a 1:20 twist but this one has a 1:30 twist.
Back in the 40's when I was a kid I saw some old fellows do some impressive shooting with their old flint locks.

I COULD NEVER GET MY CVA Optima Pro TO SHOOT XTP HOWEVER AS WITH ALL MY CVA'S 250GR SHOCKWAVE SUPER GLIDES AND 110GR OF 777 AND I GET 1IN AT 100YRDS. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FIND A BULLET THAT IS NOT AS PRICEY BUT I AM NOT WILLING TO LOOSE MY ACCURACY.

Shockwave superglides, my first new bullet to try.

If money is an issue, be sure to try the Sabertooth from Harvester @ $9/15 bullets.

You should be very happy with 5-6 inch groups at 100 yards. Don't listen to all the crap you do hear on the net about 1 inch groups. That is absolute PERFECT shooting and is very unrealistic. Personally, I DO think that certain people on here lie outright about their groups. They have to boost their pride levels. That's human nature. I GUARANTEE that at least 80 percent ofshooters have lied about theirgroupsonocassionor do it on a regular basis.

I might not get respect on here but at least I have never lied. I for one have gotten some crap from certain someones for my 6 inch groups in the past. Just don't let it bother you. Some people are just arrogant and boastful. They have to boost their ownconfidence by putting themselves above others levels.

Very few shooters can shoot 1 inch groups and very few do. Most MLs are not capable of it unless they are completely tuned and are in a solid bench rest. Not even to mention the variables. A gust of wind could throw the bullet off an inch at 100 yards.

Just keep working at your shooting and ignore anyone saying you should shoot better. It's up to you to decide how well you should shoot. 6 inch groups are ADEQUATE for hunting. That's undeniable. A deer's vitals are 8 inches for God sakes.

By the way, I don't doubt that people can shoot that well. I'm just saying that MOST don't and think they should. The only thing trying to shoot 1 inch groups did for me was bring my spirits down. Shoot for 6 inch groups and you'll never be disappointed.

If you try to shoot 6" groups and you know you can do better, why bring your spirits down and settle for less?

He'll see a difference once he gets his trigger adjusted. A tight pull will always be a hard thing to deal with, and pull your shots open. i havean old remington .22 with one of those triggers.