liquidorange

Velocity is the problem when it happens - it doesn't always strip though. If you shoot soft tissue - no big bones the work great.... If you shoot big bones - they still work but just not as well..

They are pistol bullets designed for pistol velocity, but in most cases they work fine...

An example would be the 200 grain 10mm XTP - shooting it from a muzzle loader @ 2400 feet per second is WAY over it designed rate but it works great and I have not heard of any reports that it is stripping the lead from the copper - so go figure????

Mike, I am asking myself why a 200g bullet wouldn't shed it's jacket but a 260 or a 300g would. I can't believe they would have two different manufacturing processes, that would kill productivity and be very expensive. So why does this happen? Do you have a theory?Would the Hornady Bullet designers know?
Chap Gleason

Thanks guys it means alot to me!
My son was 16 yrs old andI never pushed him to hunt. He finally figured out I was having too much fun bringing home piggies and deer! He picked that spot inthefat little oak tree cause he had that feeling! He enjoyed shooting the single shot and challenge of the front stuffer.
I do believe the move to NY from FL hindered his desire to start because of the major changes cause he was scouting and helping set up stands etc. He and his sister always liked to target shoot, help clean the fish and family camp.

My wife and I are very lucky he was able to be home for Christmas from Okinawa, Japan on combat leave. On News Year Day my son shipped off to Iraq like many others. He is an intel specialist and a Corporal in the US Marine Corp. Yes, I'm a pretty proud father on many levels. He knew exactly what he was doing when he joined and wanted to go protect those who could not do the same for themselves. Sorry for getting off subject.

The following year Jack used my Thunderhawk while I used my brand new Omega. He was hunting my favorite spot and I had seen some monsters during bow season overlooking Canadiauga Lake. Sure'nough the whopper comes out and that Thunderhawk has a 3-9X40 leupold and I had warned him about tree branches and about keeping a spare charge in his outer pocket w/ the ball starter. To make a long story short he hit a 4" branch below his line of sight and the plaque speaks for itself! That is the most important hunting experience he will ever remember beside his first deer.



LiquidO,
That is exactly what the bullet was designed for pistols @ lower velocities! The lower powder charges are really better. I just wanted to point out how close and what exactly that bullet did. Like I said it made one big entrance whole and held together till I skinned that buck and scrubbed that bullet. I look around and could not find it....
Sabotloader,
Yes, W/O a doubt one of the best bullets out there are the /Gold Dots. The most used Law Enforcement round out there IMHO. I sell all the Big Three out of Four. If I carried that would be the round I would want.
The other istheBarnes expanders hunting round that several companies use.
This week end there is a gun show and STEVE-O is looking for a LH flinter!
Just gota try one.
SHills

There are a number of Hornady XTP bulletsloaded in sabots by variouscompanies. I am not going to mention the lighter 180 and 200 grain XTP bullets.

240 grain .44 cal. XTP
240 grain .44 cal. XTP Mag
300 grain .44 cal. XTP
240 grain .45 cal. XTP-may be a Mag bullet
300 grain .45 cal. XTPMag
Some folks load this one in their sabots.A friend of mine uses it and it is
devastating on deer-it totally blows up.He has killed a couple dozen deer with it nearly all of them have been bang flops.
230 grain .45 caliber XTP

The Mag bullets should not shedtheir cores at normal muzzleloading velocities.

alsaqr

The Hornady's in the pic were 300 grain XTP Mags.... now shooting them into wet dirt isn't what they were really ment for but none-the-less the bonded Speers did not do shed their copper..

Great!!! I shot one this year with 300 grain XTP's and 110 grains powder. It performed excellent as well. I have faith in those bullets.

Haven't hunted any clay banks, but I can attest that XTPs work GREAT or real deer, esp. if you hit the deer. Here's one taken from deer killed using 90gr RS at about forty yards. Bullet is 240gr .452 XTP, one of those packaged as TC MagExpress.