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He has already got it for sale... but I am not interested - I believed him in the first place when he said not to waste your time... but you know UC he just can't help himself he has to try to make everything better.

Well... I sorta became Dr. Denali over at DWBs in the interest of science but my need to experiment and tinker has decayed to near zero lately. I was going to shoot for Dr. Genesis but one doctorate is enough.

Besides, Doc White already did what needed doing.

Unfortunately, Doc left the job unfinished. If he had finished it, there would still be U-M's for sale at Sportsman's Warehouse and they wouldn't be $299.Triggers would be a lot easier to get also.

Underclocked - When I shot your genesis I used the triple 7 primers (with triple 7 powder). I did notice that with each shot the action got tighter, but it never got to the point that I couldnt open or close it.

I would recommend trying some different primers, or like you mentioned, wiping off the blowback from the action every few shots.

Also, I had the best accuracy results with 250 gr. shockwaves. I also shot some TC maxiballs, but they shot erratically. I was using 2 T7 pellets.

Good Luck.

i find cci primers the best for not giving off a lot of fouling. even the federals im using right now give a touch more fouling but not as bad as the remingtons i tried. Gotta love muzzleloading and all the fun of trying new stuff that helps you out.

Newbie Question for Sabotloader: In one of your earlier posts in this thread, you said:

"every one of the things that I have read from the owners has been positive... even over on the White Muzzleloader board those guys that don't like anything but Whites are putting up positive marks for the Genesis..."

After I read your post, I tried to find the White Muzzleloader board. But, I couldn't find it. How do I get to it? Thanks in advance.

DWB forums are at http://dwbs.proboards28.com/index.cgihowever you have to be an activated member to read the posts there. We are a bunch of wild and crazy guys and do not want to offend anyone with our sometimes borderline behavior .


I think I've figured out what they need to change in the design to eliminate the increasingly difficult Torch-Cam operation - but it's way beyond my abilities to do such a change even though it would have been simple if done originally. Also, the aluminum rod that goes through the torch-cam to hold it in place needs to be just a bit bigger aroundto provide a more snug fit to the barrel - and I may experiment with that a little.

Could be the heavy conicals create more blowback than you observed with the lighter bullets. Those PowerPunches weigh about 500 grains and 65 grains (weighed) is PLENTY of T7 behind that bullet. And I do think the primer choice made a difference - not a positive one. I think most of the blowback was definitely routed through the primer pocket as the grease I had put on the plug was barely dirty toward the nose-end threads. Seems I recall the CCI 209s are just a bit smaller diameter than Winchesters. Might have to give them a trysome year.

The rifle does handle recoil very well.

Should have shot it long before but weather had not cooperated ATALL and I'm getting far too lazy! My next outing will be with a White that I have yet to shoot... beyond that I don't know.

take1a

That was the early case - then one of the Head Chief's @DWB's bought one and gave it a very long look... it did not turn out to be as positive as first anticipated. I do not think UC is saying that it is a bad gun even right now but - as he first believed it was not the gun that he/we hoped that it might be. Myself, I took his forst impression and went another direction. I was leaning towards the the new Remington because of the positive experiance I have with my two Remington 700ML's.

shuddup RC!