Knight bolt action rifle users, HELP!!
#11
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Jul 2003
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Most everyone inside this forum will tell you that the Omegas will shoot almost anything from 180-400 grains with accuracy. Wolfhound's mention of Omegas being picky is new to me. I read over 15 blackpowder forums every week. I basically hear just the opposite. Most folks prefer the Omega over the Knight. That's why Knight sales have dropped like 33% - while T/C has taken all their more upscale ML business. Besides all that, bolt-actions are a dying breed. Everyone wants a fall or break-action these days. Your salesman was absolutely correct on the Pro Hunter. You may regret not waiting for that one.
#12
uckayak2_mn
I can not add any more than these fine foks have about your choice of the pro-hunter vs the Knight, I do not own either one of them. I do own and shoot a Omega - I really do like the Omega, but I got to tell you I do NOT find it any easier to clean than my Remingtons. I have almost made the decision to return to the Remington (bolt action) for the next hunting season. The modern break opens and drop breeches are a nice thought and I bought in to it but at this point I really do like the White and the Remingtons - old fashioned guns.
I think some where cayugad mention carring one around all day. Both the Omega and the White have laminate stocks and seem heavy after a few hours (but I am old) - the Omega carries easier (it is also shorter)than the White BUT I do not like the idea of having to pull the hammer back each time I want to take a shot. I am thinking in a blind or a stand that would not be that big of a deal but when you hunting and walking on the ground it does cost you some time.
The old Knight disc and extremes have a great reputation from every report I have ever read. The only drawback for me, if there is one, is the primer carriers you have to load and insert. Theoretically one insert is better than the other - red or orange - you would have to ask someone that knows more than I.
mike
I can not add any more than these fine foks have about your choice of the pro-hunter vs the Knight, I do not own either one of them. I do own and shoot a Omega - I really do like the Omega, but I got to tell you I do NOT find it any easier to clean than my Remingtons. I have almost made the decision to return to the Remington (bolt action) for the next hunting season. The modern break opens and drop breeches are a nice thought and I bought in to it but at this point I really do like the White and the Remingtons - old fashioned guns.
I think some where cayugad mention carring one around all day. Both the Omega and the White have laminate stocks and seem heavy after a few hours (but I am old) - the Omega carries easier (it is also shorter)than the White BUT I do not like the idea of having to pull the hammer back each time I want to take a shot. I am thinking in a blind or a stand that would not be that big of a deal but when you hunting and walking on the ground it does cost you some time.
The old Knight disc and extremes have a great reputation from every report I have ever read. The only drawback for me, if there is one, is the primer carriers you have to load and insert. Theoretically one insert is better than the other - red or orange - you would have to ask someone that knows more than I.
mike
#13
the red insert is the one that is supposed to seal the breech and be the "better" one. This is the new model. I have an older modelDisc with the orange primer holders and have not had any problems with it.
#14
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: M
I possibly will regret my decision on my final choice, that is why I am sifting through as much possible information that I can come across. The Pro Hunter is actually mine right now, I just need to make the final payment Monday and it will be mine. I do realize that bolt action rifles are a dying breed. You can see that during regular firearms season, everyone likes the clip full of ammo & a semi auto. Unless things have changed though, anytime you see a sniper type firearm it is a bolt action. Probably just for the fact that there are a minimum of moving parts and a fixed barrel design. Just look at the German designed Mausers they are still a much sought after rifle. I just remember hunting with single shot hinged barrel shotguns when I first started hunting. They usually developed a little play, not a major deal with a shotgun. My concern is that it could lead to a problem with a hinge style rifle barrel. I suppose it basically comes down to the old, apples or oranges.
Just trying to make the best purchase for myself,
Mike
Just trying to make the best purchase for myself,
Mike
#15
Joined: Sep 2003
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ORIGINAL: uckayak2_mn
Thanks Wolfhound76,
My decision is becoming much easier. One question, do the Knight rifles work okay with the 209 primers or do they need to be modded down?
Keep the info coming, positive or negative, my decision is almost made.
Thanks Wolfhound76,
My decision is becoming much easier. One question, do the Knight rifles work okay with the 209 primers or do they need to be modded down?
Keep the info coming, positive or negative, my decision is almost made.
#16
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Rivesville, WV
First I must apologizeto TripleSe7en, he is not going to like what I am about to write. I have owned 2 Omega's. I can honestly say that they were the two biggest pieces of crap I have ever owned. I could have wrapped both of them around a tree. VERY, VERY finicky. The Second shot would not go down the barrel period. The only way I could get a second shot into the barrel, was a complete cleaning. I even broke a ramrod trying to reload a second shot. Triggers are also very bad IMO.
Now in all fairness, when I got a good load worked up for my Omega, it would keep 3 shots inside 2 inches at 200 yards. It was the best shooting ML I have ever seen in my life. But I lost halfmy hair getting there.
However in the final analysis, the inability to load therifle to me was paramount. I got rid ofboth of them. I have read alot of threads about the Omega, and I concluded that my problems are not the norm. But I did go through 2 of them. Tom.
SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY.
Now in all fairness, when I got a good load worked up for my Omega, it would keep 3 shots inside 2 inches at 200 yards. It was the best shooting ML I have ever seen in my life. But I lost halfmy hair getting there.
However in the final analysis, the inability to load therifle to me was paramount. I got rid ofboth of them. I have read alot of threads about the Omega, and I concluded that my problems are not the norm. But I did go through 2 of them. Tom.
SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY.




