Cayagad
I agree with everything you said, There is one minor correction tho,
I also live in WI. and we are allowed to use smokeless powder.
Redclub

Thats right, niether does this high tech, fancy very consistent burning 777 powders by hodgdon. I mean whats primative about that.

is Swiss okay?

Very good point bigcountry. As I have said before, to me there is no right or wrong on this stuff. If 10 of us sat down to individually make up the rules, we would end up with 10 different sets of rules/laws.

And......like doegirl, I was introduced to ML through inlines. I don't have a traditional BP gun, but will be looking to get one this next year. It will be great to pass that part of our history down to my kids and I really doubt it would have happened without the evil inline.

UC, I have a couple pounds of Swiss on order, maybe the muzzleloader gods will approve when I throw away Triple Seven and shoot some real BP.

No, absolutely not, Swiss is way too consistent. Its has to be goex, maybe elephant.

But I prefer only goex. Seriously, I like the stuff,

Redclub -I have always been under the impression that smokeless powder was illegal, and still is. So I opened my rules and regulations and it reads;

"Muzzleloaders are legal to use during the 10-day muzzleloader hunt with black powder or black powder substitutes."

This definition still did not solve my problem. While I am not doubting your statement, I really wanted a definite answer. I did not consider that a definite answer. I am only going by past experiences and talking to warden friends of mine. So I called the head office in Spooner Wisconsin. I then spoke to the head warden there.

I asked him, "I was under the impression that smokeless powder was illegal in Wisconsin during the muzzleloader season. Another Wisconsin resident is under the impression that smokeless powder is considered a legal powder during muzzleloader season. So who is right?"

He then stammered a little and said, well lets see how the law reads. So to speed this up, I read him the above quoted statement from their website reference the muzzleloader regulations. I then asked him, which answer is it. His response was; "I don't know."

We then discussed the different available powders out there on the market today. He wanted to know what kind of smokeless powder I was talking about. All I could answer was, smokeless, the same kind you would find in a center fire rifle as far as I know. He then said he really could not answer my question. I then told him I would hate to go hunting in the woods with an answer like that. He laughed and said so would he, and that he would find out the correct answer and let me know.

So the answer is; he will call me back.

Cayagad there was a letter in the wis outdoor news Nov.issue a couple of years ago. Also it was on the DNR webpage. RW also had a letter stating this from the DNR. According to the DNR smokeless is a blackpowder substitute.
Redclub

Got a super 91 in 410 today.

Well it is new to me... not that it makes any difference since I do not shoot it. So far no telephone call back from the DNR but I believe you...

Congratulations on the Super 91 in .410 caliber. It should be a great long range shooter.

It was a legislative issue the DNR had nothing to do with. I doubt my state senator or representative could help me find out why. Although the manner in which it was done points to active citizens talking to their representative. I doubt any legislator, unless they are a hunter, would even know of the issue.Could be hunters or anti-hunters pushing for it but there's no way to tell.

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roundball

How about these rules.... IDAHO