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Triple Se7en 07-14-2006 12:54 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 

ORIGINAL: cascadedad


He's probably asking about the Savage because he is interested init. I think that is what this board is all about.

Regarding the White's. I bought two BRAND NEW Ultra Mags for my son and I from Sportsman's Warehouse a few weeks ago. After shooting them, I purchased another BRAND NEW one for my Dad and it was delivered yesterday by the FED EX delivery man. I think there still might be a couple out there and they are not hard to find. Look up Sportsman's Warehouse on the internet and call any of them. They can do a search. If I couldn't have got them, I would have got a referbished one. They are as simple of a design as I could ever imagine. I got all the replacement parts I could ever imagine needing from Doc. These parts are so simple they could easily be duplicated by any machine shop for very little money.

Read what the people that actually have them say, not someone who is just out to bash them.
Who is bashing them?? Please copy & paste that Hunting.net post/thread right here. If you are being truthful, well lets see the post and/or thread.

Otherwise... please continue to post here in a TRUTHFUL MANNER(or)go away please to another ML board where White Rifle lies are acceptable.

I NEVER QUESTIONED THIS GUY ABOUT HIS SAVAGE! I questioned how he had planned on using the rifle.

Get some comprehensioncells workinginside your brain please.

Tahquamenon 07-14-2006 01:12 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
Last I checked this was an any ML weapon forum, not specifically one manufacturer or another. About the time that this forum becomes a vendor specific site I will be gone for sure.

I also don't think there was anyone bashingany riflesin thisthread.

A fella asked a question and folks have tried to answer.

M2C

Tahquamenon

Redclub 07-14-2006 01:23 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
Hi Mo
They only one I know who has all three is Loggy,however I am close, asI have a white,Savage, and an Omega.Cascadedad has some good advice on the White.The Savage if legal and you can use scopes is by far a better long range rifle. It truly is an honest 200+ yard gun. However you need a powder scale. There is a ton of info on forums about the Savage. Big thing is you don't need to clean it very often.This is the rifle I use in WI. for our ML season.
The White Ultra-mag is truly an awesome rifle It really feels good,shoots conicals (make sure you get right ones). like you wouldn't believe. I haven't shot sabots out of it as that is not what I bought it for. I go to Co. and its conicals only.
The Omega will shoot anything quite well. I shot a bull elk with it last year but this year I am using the white. I feel it is a better conical shooter.
The Omega is very easy to clean and user friendly and that is what I recommend to new shooters.
If I could only have one with the hunting I do it would be the White. WI. doesn't allow scopes over 1x and CO. no scopes at all.
Cascadedad let me know where you got your last Ultra-mag. I want another.
Redclub

Underclocked 07-14-2006 01:55 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
First of all, Cascadedad is not stating anything that is a lie.He did exactly what he said he did. I think some people are well served to hide THEIR realitybehind the mask of the internet.

I don't own a Savage but I'm sure it's a very nicely made rifle. It is middle of the road pricewise when compared to the White Ultra Mag at 299 (if you can find a Sportsman's Warehouse that still has any left, they sold very quickly at that price) and the Encore ProHunter at around 800. It would be hard to say which of those three rifles would make a nice Missouri deer the deadest.

cascadedad 07-14-2006 01:56 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
Sorry to bring my lyin ways to this board. Forget where I was. I'll try to keep my lyin over there on that other board where White Rifle lies are not only acceptable, but expected.:)

Redclub, my last purchase was from the Loveland, Colorado store. I worked through Drew and the phone is 970-461-5000. But.......I think mine was the last one there. As of about 3 weeks ago, there were a couple still left in Alaska. Shipping will be more from there, but if I wanted another, I would go for it.

My last one, including WA state sales tax and shipping was $330 to my front door.

AmericanPioneer 07-14-2006 02:35 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
Well, the Encore pro hunter is expensive and will require an atf firearms form to be filled out since it has a serialed frame and can be converted to a rifle, pistol, and shotgun. I have no experience with the White rifles just what I have read which is good. The problems with the companywould affect me buying one as my first muzzleloadersimply for that reason. Maybe as a second or third like stated by another. The Savage is a strong muzzleloader and has the capability of using backpowder, substitutes, and smokeless which is a plus. They have an excellent trigger if you get one of the new ones. I have seen some video hunts where extreme shots have been made with these rifles not saying that the other brands wont because Ive seen some ofthem doit too. I personally would go with a regular encore frame and buy the pro hunter barrel myself at a cheaper price. Your going to pay more for that engraved frame. The barrels will fit any frame in the encore line i.e.,(pro hunter, regular stainless, regular blued). Also, with the encore you have the options of having a pistol, rifle, and shotgun by just spending another 200.00 to 300.00 on a barrel, sometimes alot cheaper if you find them used or on sale. I would vote for the encore. I have one in rifle, pistol, and soon to be muzzleloader. They have really treated me well on warranty work. They have one of the best service departmentsin the business.Remember, buy your frame and then buy the pro hunter barrel unless you really want the engraved frame. My 2 cents. Good Luck!!!!

sabotloader 07-14-2006 02:46 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
mo_bowhunter

Just my two-bits... of the rifles you suggested let me say the best warranty out there comes with the TC. Second the Savage is an awesome gun, but the most versitile of the bunch is the White. If an inline is legal in your chosen ML hunting the White can meet all of the requirements. It will shoot 600 grain conicals all the way down to 10mm 200 grain bullet sabot combinations and it will shoot them accurately.

The gun itself is is strong, it is built with incredible strength and simplicity.

Of the the 3 you suggested I would choose a White - specifically the White Ultra Mag. I to belive there are a few left in the Sportsmans Warehouse system you will just have to search them out. There are at least two in Alaska but shipping to the lower states could be $30.00/$40.00 - but well worth it considering you are paying $299.00 for the gun.

Best of luck in whatever you choose....



mo_bowhunter 07-14-2006 03:24 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 
Does anyone have pictures of their White Ultra Mag they could send me. I went to the White Rifles webpage and could not find any information on them, although it looked like the website has not been updated in some time.

Triple Se7en 07-14-2006 03:25 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 

ORIGINAL: cascadedad

Sorry to bring my lyin ways to this board. Forget where I was. I'll try to keep my lyin over there on that other board where White Rifle lies are not only acceptable, but expected.:)
Copy & paste from another ML messageboard - if you like! Copy & paste it right here at Hunting.Net. Problem is ... you won't find any White Rifle-bashing from me. It doesn't exist. Go back an entire year if you like. Search thru 20 messageboards. But when you done searching & come up enpty-- promise me this..... don't lie/make false accusationsanymore here or elsehwere on the internet.

I have merely questionedWhite's prior ownership in the past year. In the past week, I questioned why Doc White would enter one of his Whitesinto that 2006 Shooting Championship. I know my own answer to that - why "I think" he entered again. The answer is pretty simple.... he wants attention given tothe brand-name -- so a new buyer for his once proud company can be found & will continue to bear his own"White" name on an exterior neonsign over the new business entrance front door.

Just my opinion....


cayugad 07-14-2006 03:41 PM

RE: Pro Hunter v Savage v White
 

ORIGINAL: mo_bowhunter

Does anyone have pictures of their White Ultra Mag they could send me. I went to the White Rifles webpage and could not find any information on them, although it looked like the website has not been updated in some time.


mine is the .504 caliber Ultra Mag with the laminate stock and stainless steelbarrel.



This was a 60 yard group out of the rifle. With a 495 grain conical I think most any deer will be in a world of hurt if it happens to try and slow that down.


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