Hollow Points Or Solids
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Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
a light hollowbullet at high velocity is explosive.a heavy hollowbullet at high velocity is not as explosive.if we are talking muzzleloader bullets.if your 240 gr xtp are not hollow point,i dont think problem but many here are better at that than me.being i am somewhat a person who has seen many deer killed with many bullets of diff weights/velocity.i am talking only whitetail deer.we never had choice of bullets we do today in muzzleloaders.i only use flintlock.i would not use a hollow point bullet in a in-line if it is shooting at high velocity of the in-line. again , i am not expert only what i would do. in the flintlock,loaded low charges which i LIKE. best bullet i feel out there is the HOLLOW POINT POWERBELT.295 and up.what a bullet for the flintlock hunters. i am retiring my maxi-balls now. may they rest in peace, ha.take care.
#13
Typical Buck
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The only problem I see is if they are over driven into big game. Same thing I feel with the powerbelts. The XTP is made to be driven at .44mag velosities.
We have now exceeded that with our modern m/l so we need to look more for a high speed rifle bullet. The fp Interlock I shoot will go through 1/4 plate steel pretty clean. Close to what a .308 will. XTP's leave the shell behind and make a smaller hole. I am sure the lead is sprayed beyond that as well..
I know it has nothing to do with game but I find it fun and interesting to look what bullets do to steel.
We have now exceeded that with our modern m/l so we need to look more for a high speed rifle bullet. The fp Interlock I shoot will go through 1/4 plate steel pretty clean. Close to what a .308 will. XTP's leave the shell behind and make a smaller hole. I am sure the lead is sprayed beyond that as well..
I know it has nothing to do with game but I find it fun and interesting to look what bullets do to steel.
#14
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
on our rifles ,slow ones, we always used bullets with a lot of lead on tips,on high powered rifles like a 7mm rem mag,we would use heavy weights and little lead on tips of bullet.if not, you would blow the other side of deer away.
#15
racks-n-beards: I may be wrong, but I think I may have used a couple of words that misled you. The words were, "blow up"; sproulman used the word, "explosive".That is speaking of the terminal performance of a light-jacketed bullet driven at high velocities when it hits the animal. It doesn't mean it's dangerous to the shooter or the weapon.
As has been mentioned, XTP's are a well-constructed jacketed hollow point bullet that can withstand the velocities produced in a magnum handgun (44 mag. for example), and also the velocities produced by approx. 100 grain ML charges. It's when the charges start going over 100 grains or so, and the velocities begin approaching 2400 fps or so, that most holow point bullets will start to go to pieces ("blow up") when they hit an animal the size of a hog, a deer or larger. There are probably exceptions to this, and your results may vary. From all I've heard and read, a 240 gr XTP ahead of 100 gr T7 is a very good load for whitetails. It should give good penetration AND good expansion.
IM jaybe
As has been mentioned, XTP's are a well-constructed jacketed hollow point bullet that can withstand the velocities produced in a magnum handgun (44 mag. for example), and also the velocities produced by approx. 100 grain ML charges. It's when the charges start going over 100 grains or so, and the velocities begin approaching 2400 fps or so, that most holow point bullets will start to go to pieces ("blow up") when they hit an animal the size of a hog, a deer or larger. There are probably exceptions to this, and your results may vary. From all I've heard and read, a 240 gr XTP ahead of 100 gr T7 is a very good load for whitetails. It should give good penetration AND good expansion.
IM jaybe

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I just received an e-mail from an old hunting
buddy. He has just returned from Texas where
he took a nice wild hog. He said 267lbs. After
reading some of these post again I e-mailed him
to asked what he used. T/C Omega 50cal. 150gr.
stick form Shockys Gold, 300gr. Hornady XTP mag.
He says at 60yds it broke both front shoulders &
sprayed blood out the exit side. So maybe the
XTP'S will hold up to a magnum charge in the right
situation. Danny
buddy. He has just returned from Texas where
he took a nice wild hog. He said 267lbs. After
reading some of these post again I e-mailed him
to asked what he used. T/C Omega 50cal. 150gr.
stick form Shockys Gold, 300gr. Hornady XTP mag.
He says at 60yds it broke both front shoulders &
sprayed blood out the exit side. So maybe the
XTP'S will hold up to a magnum charge in the right
situation. Danny
#18
Nontypical Buck
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It occurs to me that maybethere is no perfect bullet. The best choice being the one that provides the terminal performance desired at the range and velocity that one expects for its impact with game. There is such a wide range of velocity between the Muzzle and thedistance some are now shooting, that finding one which performs the same everytime, it would seem,would be impossible. I never sling anything faster that 1650 fps and the loads I really like havemuzzle velocity in the 1300-1450 fps range.At Muzzle velocitiesbelow1400fps, I do like a solid pure lead hollow point. I think they are as close to perfect as one can get if shooting a slower load. As far as the 2100+ fps speeds, I haven't a clue, but I suspect that bullet manufactures do enough testing that they have determined the best arrangements for these speeds. I would probably lean toward a flat nosed rifle bullet with muzzle velocities exceeding 1900 fps.
Happy Hunting, Phil
Happy Hunting, Phil
#19
pglasgow: I agree that there may be (is probably) no "perfect bullet" for every situation. And that's why I really appreciate seeing a report like aquatech gave us. It's good to know that someone has had good performance with a 300 gr XTP mag. ahead of a 150 gr load. Sounds like it had good penetration also. This takes it out of the realm of THEORY and brings it right to where we live.
The one question I have: is there a difference between the XTP MAG and the "regular" XTP?
IM jaybe
The one question I have: is there a difference between the XTP MAG and the "regular" XTP?
IM jaybe
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Giant Nontypical
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All bullets are designed to work at certain velocity ranges if you can look up on the net or contact the maker and take the velocity it is designed for into considerationwhen making this type decision it will help. Lee
PS I though solids refured to the bullets that are completely jacketed and designed for dangerous game or very large game where extereme penatration is needed?
Lee
PS I though solids refured to the bullets that are completely jacketed and designed for dangerous game or very large game where extereme penatration is needed?
Lee


