2f or 3f APP?
#1
I'm thinking of picking up some AAP and I've heard some folks like the 2f and others use the 3f. I plan on shooting primarily 250-300gr sabots in an omega.
Any suggestions on which granulation to try?
Thanks in advance.
gopherfan
Any suggestions on which granulation to try?
Thanks in advance.
gopherfan
#2
I just started playing around with the Jim Shockey Gold powder, both 2F and 3F, in the past couple of months. I got over 2300 fps with 110 grains of 3F behind a 200 grain 50/40 Shockwave - so I would suspect this is pretty close to a full throttle load. Musket cap didn't look too bad, though. Might be able to go up to 120 grains. I was personally happy with the velocity and accuracy (MOA), so I'm probably not going to rock the boat on this load.
I also tried 130 grains of 2F with a 250 Shockwave, and got speeds in the upper 2200 range. In the latter case, the musket cap was significantly deformed - about the same as what it normally looks like with three Pyrodex pellets (150 grain); so between thatand the what the chronograph said, I would not want to tryto push this one any faster.
I also tried 130 grains of 2F with a 250 Shockwave, and got speeds in the upper 2200 range. In the latter case, the musket cap was significantly deformed - about the same as what it normally looks like with three Pyrodex pellets (150 grain); so between thatand the what the chronograph said, I would not want to tryto push this one any faster.
#4
Nontypical Buck
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If you want your grains to resemble rock salt --then decide that youdo not wantyour APP FFtopour out of most powder flasks you own -because the granulesbeing so huge, then the FF is the powder for you.
To me, it's a no-brainer selecting the FFF. It has shown a tad more horsepower also in my findings.
To me, it's a no-brainer selecting the FFF. It has shown a tad more horsepower also in my findings.
#5
Thanks for the head's up on the "rock salt". I knew I had read some opinions on one vs the other. I think I'll go with the 3f.
And the best part is that I got my answer before the end of the day so I can stop on the way home.
Tom
And the best part is that I got my answer before the end of the day so I can stop on the way home.
Tom
#6
Giant Nontypical
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Well the grains are large but my results are excellant for heavy loads with FF I do use FFF in my rugar and my 45 Hawken also with excellant results; i don't have a pressure rig but my strain gage tells me I get more velocity and less pressure than 777. I like heavy loads and I could care less about the size of the grains [they are about twice as big as FF black] if they shoot tight groups. Lee
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Nontypical Buck
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ORIGINAL: gopherfan
Thanks for the head's up on the "rock salt". I knew I had read some opinions on one vs the other. I think I'll go with the 3f.
And the best part is that I got my answer before the end of the day so I can stop on the way home.
Tom
Thanks for the head's up on the "rock salt". I knew I had read some opinions on one vs the other. I think I'll go with the 3f.
And the best part is that I got my answer before the end of the day so I can stop on the way home.
Tom



