RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

Iv never shot a ml before but i have shot every other gun under the sun, i mean from ak's to the smith and wessen .500, ar's i mean everything. I have a cva optima, im using cci primers, and i bouth pyrodex pellets, and my uncle for christmas who just got into ml bought me some more primers and powder, i think he got me triple 7. Iv had the gun for like 2 years and finally just got all the stuff to shoot it, i hate the ramrod on it, one part with the loading jag screws out and the jag is connected to a little metal pole and u keep unscrewin then it falls forward like 3 inches and then there is a secondary set of threads to hold it like that, and i cant take that jag off and put another loading tip on, but on the other side there is a thread whole were i can put like cleaning pathces and brushes and a differnt loading tip, i got it cleaned put some of cva anti seaze stuff that comes in a stick like a glue stick on the breech plug, i have a range well actually 2 ranges about 10 minutes away from my house, one is indoor and the other is outdoor. I want to get a scope for it but i think for now until i get some more money im just gona shoot with sights. IM asking for anyones help, i put cayugads name on the post so he would see it and not overloook it because i know he knows alot and so do most of you no offense so please dont take it the wrong way.

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

Here are the pics of what i have, its all in a dry box that i can take to the range.

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

A.D.D. BOY

Sounds good to me... If I could encourage you, I think the next purchase you might want to get is a "Range Rod." A range rod is a longer than normal ram rod that you can use while shooting targets. The rod will serve you a lot better than the gun rod, actually it sound like there might be a better (after market) gun out there also.

I would still encourage to start as basic as you can shooting 2 pellets and your powerbelts. Shoot a few of these until you are comfortable loading and shooting. I do not need to this any longer but for you starting out I would say shoot four or five rounds damp swabbing between rounds and after the 5th round or so loosen and re-snug you breech plug - might want to do this every 5/6 rounds until you know you machine. This first go around I don't even care if you hit the target, just get the shooting in.

The next real important step will be getting home and cleaning the gun.You have probably read several post on how to that step... Clean her up and go again.

I would also suggest that you buy a box of hornady 45 cal 250 grain XTP bullets and a package of TC Mag Express, Harvester or MMP HPH-24 sabots. Use this combination of sabots for awhile - site your gun in with these - get comfortable loading and shooting this combination and you are off to the races...

The cci primers should work just fine with the Pryro pellets... and for sure with loose powder...

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

Also, do not forget to put anti seize on your breech plug, only finger tighten the plug in place and then back it off about 1/4 turn, the proper loading jag on the end of the ramrod and short start will not only protect the projectile when loading, but make loading a little easier.

Also Sabot loader is right, since your first starting out, keep it simple fora while. If using loose powder, then stay at 100 grains of it. Triple Se7en I like to stay at 90 grains with my CVA. Be sure and swab between shots, and most of all take your time and do not get in a hurry. Keep your concentration on the loading of the rifle and not anything else. Make a witness mark on your ramrod and be sure all of the loads reach that witness mark. You are going to do fine, and you will see what a blast muzzleloaders are...

Keep us posted on your first range trip and how the rifle shot for you....

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

I dont know why but it wasnt lettin me post but here is the 200 grain shockwaves in the sabot,

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This is the ramrod with the extended jag,i dont like it because the jag dosnt like go in its not hollowed out its just like a little dimple in the metal and im afraid it will mess up the round when i shove it in like the ballistics.

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

This is the ones I use on the shockwaves. The reason I like them is, not only will they load the shockwave with out damage to the tip but you can also swab the barrel with it, as it will hold a patch. Also because it is so small, when hunting, you can leave it right on the end of the ramrod and shoot over it.

Your picture of the 200 grain Shockwave in the sabot is correct. It does flare the petals some, but they will load well in most rifles and their accuacy is exceptional... I think they will make an excellent deer load. Now if I can just get a deer during season to come in, I can test that theory....

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

This is the loadin tips that came with my bullet starter and i load with one on the other end and push it in and use the pullet starter the rest of the way its hill billy lol.

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the middle one is what im gona use it fits over the top nicely.

RE: I need some answers please CAYUGAD.
 

ADD Boy, I use the T/C Shockwave 200 and they work great. The picture you posted is what mine look like when I put them in the barrel. I also use the same jag as cayugad and I put another one on my bullet starter. They will not mess up the aero-tip on the bullet.

I would agree with keeping it simple at first. Soon you will be trying all sorts of load combinations to see what shoots best.

Where do you live? I'm sure someone on the forum would help you out at the range.