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Triple Se7en 09-08-2005 10:16 AM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
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It does take a few more minutes to remove and clean the bolt but after doing a few times its no big deal....My brother bought a Knight Disc with a 26 inch barrel the year before the Omega came out....He is the type to buy newer and bigger every few years...That might be my next "new" muzzleloader....Frankly I think Knight was crazy to quit making the original disc rifles....
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Knight was smart... not crazy!Very few folkswant to spend around $400 on a ML bolt-action anymore. The bolt-craze ended the very dayeach ML manufacturer came outwith their own versions of break-actions.It also costscompaniesmore to produce a bolt-action vs a break action. Plus.... the manufacturer gets more complaints - resulting in more tech servicewith bolts because of their moving parts that increase blowby &gather powder & primer foulings.

In reality.... it was a no-brainer to either stop selling them (or) curtail assembly time significantly. I don't believe the bolt will go away for an eternity with the higher quality MLmanufacturers.... but their day as being a pioneer of this business is l-o-n-g gone.

Wolfhound76 09-08-2005 01:45 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
I've got the Disc Extreme which is the successor to the Disc Rifle. I'd give the Winchester Platinum tips a try. My Extreme shoots them very well at 100 ydswith 100 gr of FFG Triple Seven. Thats the target on the left. 2 Groups at 100 yds (sight adjustment). Other targets were load development.

nchawkeye 09-08-2005 02:02 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
Guess thats why they make chocolate and vanilla...Having an adjustable trigger, secondary screw safety and the ease of dropping in a 209 primer within a disc outweigh the faster cleaning of a break action...With my Knight Disc I have no blowback...

I think Knight also shot themselves in the foot when they came out with the Vision...and the Disc Extremes...With the break open design they should have left the discs out...Guess they think we all hunt in a monsoon...

cayugad 09-08-2005 02:13 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 

ORIGINAL: nchawkeye

Its a disc with a percussion nipple on it...I have one that came with my rifle...I've always used the 209s...Why would you want to go back to caps???
Actually shooting loose powder, the #11 cap is more then enough to fire off the charge, and I get such good accuracy out of my Wolverine II that shoots #11 caps I just sometimes think that they are really a good way to go. I've had excellent luck with the #11 caps hunting. Also on the range they are cheaper to shoot then the 209 primers. Maybe I will have to look into getting one of them. I always have about 10 tins of the Dynamite Noble 1075 around the house...

cayugad 09-08-2005 02:44 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
Wolfhound.. that's some nice shooting. Looks like you have a great rifle there. I never shot the Winchester Platinum Tips but I have readsome posts on them. Maybe when I go on line for my next shopping extravaganza I will have to see if they carry some of them. I like trying new projectiles... Its the only way to learn the rifle and what it will do..

nchawkeye 09-08-2005 02:47 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
One of my buddies has a Wolverine and the other an American Knight...I hate trying to get the percussion caps on the nipple...with the 209s in a disc you just open the bolt, flip the used disc and primer out, reach in your pocket and drop in a new one and close the bolt...those caps are a pain to deal with...Once you get your discs in and try them you might feel the same...heck...I always preferred shooting a flintlock...would rather do that than mess with those caps...I don't think I ever bought a tin of caps...went straight from flinters to 209s....LOL

PS...Do you have a crony to check the velocity...You have me thinking about finding a new...to me...Knight Disc with a longer barrel...would just really like to know about how much more velocity I'd be getting....I'm currently shooting 90grs of Pyrodex RS...behind a 250gr SST...probably not getting but about 1550-1600fps...I'm guessing with a 26 inch barrel and 100 grs I might get 1800???

cayugad 09-08-2005 05:54 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
Nope I do not own one of them fancy speed machines.. I thought about getting one, but then I really wonder whether I would use it or not. Until then I just shoot for the best possible accuracy and let the bullet do the rest.

Underclocked 09-08-2005 06:13 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 
Cayugad, you could easily learn to hate that secondary safety. Experience I had with them was they tend to spin to an on-safe position as you carry them hunting. Replaced the end of mine with a lock-nut, actually still looked pretty good and eliminated the possibility of a no-ignition shot due that safety.

Wolfhound76 09-08-2005 06:28 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad

I never shot the Winchester Platinum Tips but I have readsome posts on them. Maybe when I go on line for my next shopping extravaganza I will have to see if they carry some of them. I like trying new projectiles... Its the only way to learn the rifle and what it will do..
Well I know from experience that they do a number on deer.If you can find them they are worth a try and are fairly economical, $15.00/30 bullets.

cayugad 09-08-2005 07:01 PM

RE: Knight Disc Rifles
 

ORIGINAL: Underclocked

Cayugad, you could easily learn to hate that secondary safety. Experience I had with them was they tend to spin to an on-safe position as you carry them hunting. Replaced the end of mine with a lock-nut, actually still looked pretty good and eliminated the possibility of a no-ignition shot due that safety.
I noticed that exact thing just from my time with the Wolverine II. I was shooting it at the range one day and thought I'd broke something when it failed to fire the #11 caps. Turns out the back safety just turned itself enough to engage and the striker was failing to hit the cap. Now when I shoot I roll that tight, all the way to the back and it seems to stay there... I never thought about a lock nut in there. :eek: Something to consider... thanks.


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