pioneer powder ffg
08-14-2005, 08:52 PM
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pioneer powder ffg
Just shot some pioneer powder that I got from cabelas. It has a milder kick to it than an equal charge of 777pellets. I shot 25 shots w/o swabbing and the barrel was still relatively clean
. W/ 777pellets, I have trouble getting a sabot loaded after 4-6 shots so I clean every three shots. So far I'm impressed.
. W/ 777pellets, I have trouble getting a sabot loaded after 4-6 shots so I clean every three shots. So far I'm impressed.
08-15-2005, 09:25 AM
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
cayugad-the FFG isVERY corse, I almost couldn't beleive it. Because of the haz-mat charge I ordered 8lbs
. Now I wish I had 4lbs FFG, 4lbs FFFG. Oh well it shoots pretty well as I said. My son shot the 100Gr 777 pellets about three times and wasn't shell shocked, but he had had enough[
]. W/ 100Gr of the pioneer, he shot several timesand wanted to keep shooting when itwas todark to shoot.
. Now I wish I had 4lbs FFG, 4lbs FFFG. Oh well it shoots pretty well as I said. My son shot the 100Gr 777 pellets about three times and wasn't shell shocked, but he had had enough[]. W/ 100Gr of the pioneer, he shot several timesand wanted to keep shooting when itwas todark to shoot.
08-15-2005, 09:50 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
My next powder order I am going to get some of the APP 3f, some Pinnacle 3f and lots of black powder.. I liked the Pinnacle I shot last year and out of my little Wolverine II with a light sabot I was getting some exceptional accuracy... I could shoot 12 of the 240 grain T/C XTPs without swabbing.
08-15-2005, 05:02 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
Somebody here steered me to the APP FFF couple yrs ago??. I was using FF for about 4 yrs and it is very course and hard to pour/handle. I finally found 1 shop that had APP FFF. Very fine and handles/pours much easier in addition to cleaner burn.
08-15-2005, 06:29 PM
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
cayugad-I dont know how mant APP shots I could get off w/o swabbing, but 8 seemed to be the # for 777 pellets, I could've gotten 10 or 12 but once it gets a little tougher to load my sabot I call it quits and swab.
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08-16-2005, 06:54 AM
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
ORIGINAL: NVMIKE
Just shot some pioneer powder that I got from cabelas. It has a milder kick to it than an equal charge of 777pellets. I shot 25 shots w/o swabbing and the barrel was still relatively clean. W/ 777pellets, I have trouble getting a sabot loaded after 4-6 shots so I clean every three shots. So far I'm impressed.
Just shot some pioneer powder that I got from cabelas. It has a milder kick to it than an equal charge of 777pellets. I shot 25 shots w/o swabbing and the barrel was still relatively clean
. W/ 777pellets, I have trouble getting a sabot loaded after 4-6 shots so I clean every three shots. So far I'm impressed.
Pioneer is nothing but Clean Shot witha different label.
08-16-2005, 12:16 PM
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RE: pioneer powder ffg
It might be interesting to see just how much velocity an equal charge of APP delivers. I do know that, even at the same chronographed velocity, some MZ powders kick more than others. I'm not sure if it is because the bullet starts moving down the barrel more/less violently; or if there is more muzzle blast after the bullet exits the muzzle - driving the gun into your shoulder with a "jet engine effect". But it is not just simple physics - the powder can make a noticeable difference.