cayugad-the FFG isVERY corse, I almost couldn't beleive it. Because of the haz-mat charge I ordered 8lbs. Now I wish I had 4lbs FFG, 4lbs FFFG. Oh well it shoots pretty well as I said. My son shot the 100Gr 777 pellets about three times and wasn't shell shocked, but he had had enough[]. W/ 100Gr of the pioneer, he shot several timesand wanted to keep shooting when itwas todark to shoot.