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Rebel Hog 04-26-2005 07:41 AM

Determination!
 
Blake Hall 12yr old Cancer Patient Amputee from Forest, Illlinois.
Couple of weeks after amputation.
6x6 bull...Gillette, Wyoming with a .270Winmag.

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Rebel Hog 04-26-2005 07:46 AM

RE: Determination!
 
Blake Hall


CapDog 04-26-2005 08:36 AM

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Good on'em

ShatoDavis 04-26-2005 10:15 AM

RE: Determination!
 
Great job Blake!

manboy 04-26-2005 10:39 AM

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not to be a sour puss, but that bull was taken on a private ranch. i am glad to him hunting, but it was more a moo- cow hunt! rifle during the rut on private ranch. just not a true elk hunt memory in MY OPINION! :eek:

ShatoDavis 04-26-2005 10:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: manboy

not to be a sour puss, but that bull was taken on a private ranch. i am glad to him hunting, but it was more a moo- cow hunt! rifle during the rut on private ranch. just not a true elk hunt memory in MY OPINION! :eek:
You're a JACKASS!

manboy 04-26-2005 10:46 AM

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NO I JUST KNOW WHAT HUNTING IS ABOUT!

Rebel Hog 04-26-2005 10:47 AM

RE: Determination!
 
Just pray to GOD you don't come down with Cancer!
So you don't have to hunt on a private ranch!

manboy 04-26-2005 10:50 AM

RE: Determination!
 
MY DAUGHTER IS 12, SHE WILL BE ABLE TO HUNT THIS YEAR FOR ELK. I CAN TELL U SHE WILL HUNT FOR HER ELK! AND SHE MAY NOT GET ONE BUT SHE WILL NOT BE HUNTING A PRIVATE RANCH! IF I AM AN A** THAN THAT IS FINE. ATLEAST I AM TRUE TO THE WORLD OF HUNTING! AND ETHICS![:-]

ShatoDavis 04-26-2005 10:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: manboy

MY DAUGHTER IS 12, SHE WILL BE ABLE TO HUNT THIS YEAR FOR ELK. I CAN TELL U SHE WILL HUNT FOR HER ELK! AND SHE MAY NOT GET ONE BUT SHE WILL NOT BE HUNTING A PRIVATE RANCH! IF I AM AN A** THAN THAT IS FINE. ATLEAST I AM TRUE TO THE WORLD OF HUNTING! AND ETHICS![:-]
Man I agree with you as to ethics. You picked a poor time to make a stand though. You're ripping a 12 Year old kid. Not to mention that he just had an amputation. What is your beef with private farms. Many folks hunt private property. Our you saying that it was a high fenced ranch? I can't in any way support High fence hunting. Just do the right thing and delete your slander of the youngster please

BGHUNTER00 04-26-2005 11:32 AM

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Manboy, I sure hope that poor child didn't read your ridiculous statement. I'm sure he is very proud of that elk, as he should be. Have you ever hunted elk? Do you know where they live? If you have not noticed that poor child has lost his leg and is battling a very serious disease, and yet you bash him and his hunt. You are a very heartless human being.

BareBack Jack 04-26-2005 11:43 AM

RE: Determination!
 
Good Job Kid!!!!;);)
One day I hope to shoot a bull that big.:D


Manboy,
Thats pretty lame,might as well take all the hunting from a vehical permits from the handi-cap and all the keys to the locked gates so they can't drive in on Natl' Forset.
I belive like you the HIGH fence hunt's are not fair chase,but hey there is a place for them and I stand behind that kid and his elk,well earned,well deserved.I hope his dad never finds ya,there might be a good old fashion A$$ Kick'in in order.

I don't know ya Blake,but ever wanna come out west for a Antelope or a Mulie,I'll take ya anytime.
BBJ

manboy 04-26-2005 04:38 PM

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i live within 75 miles of where this tame elk was shot, and i elk hunt every year and have a success rate of 66%. and all where killed on public land. i am not bashing the kid on his hunt, anyone can hunt anyway they want. i am just saying in my OPINION that was not a hunt! if u choose to hunt private land and drive your truck to your house on stilts and sit in a lazyboy recliner and call it hunting then i feel sorry for you!

Rebel Hog 04-26-2005 04:45 PM

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Manboy,


huntnmuleys 04-26-2005 05:34 PM

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wow

i see what your saying, ronnie, but i think youre message came out a little wrong. i agree, that was probably not the most difficult elk hunt in the history of the world, but he is a kid without a leg. i also do all of my elk hunting on public, in the high country, but i am happy for the kid here. bigger than any bull ive got yet (aLthough that will change in a few months). i know what you are saying, but i really think this was not the place to say it:)

this thread did just get a hell of a lot more interesting though
brad

Hunter_59 04-26-2005 06:44 PM

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Great job Blake!! This fall will be my first elk hunt and I hope to have the chance on an elk like that. I'll bet you are on cloud nine! Just remember, in the real world there will always be idiots, i.e. manboy, just learn to tune them out and enjoy life. Some people just don't know when to keep their mouth shut! Don't ever lower yourself to their standards. Be a man, not a manboy!

manboy 04-26-2005 06:48 PM

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and remember there will always be people with MORE MONEY THAN BRAINS! like hunter _59 i bet u will pay a guide also hunter, and pay a land owner, wow what a fun hunt......NOT!

Hunter_59 04-26-2005 06:52 PM

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So, you have a problem with all types of hunting, except of course the type of hunt that you do! I've heard alot of trash on this website but you take the cake!

skeeter 7MM 04-26-2005 07:51 PM

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Oops isp error - double post

skeeter 7MM 04-26-2005 08:00 PM

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Obviously you need to be grounded manboy or should you I say change that to boyboy and mature some. I am truly happy for you and your daughter to experience your first hunt this year...something in all likelihood I will never experience with my youngest daughter! She just happens to have a rare muscle disease that will confine her to a wheelchair for life and being she can barely operate a pencil at the age of five I am not holding much hope she'll ever be able to shoot an animal on her own in any situation! I certainly don't expect you to understand what it is like but would hope you'd have the common couristy to respect others and the hardships they may face before commenting on something you know absolutely nothing about. Not everything is what it seems, my little girl while disabled has more will, determination and fight in her pinky than any rough and tumble mountain man could ever hope to have in lifetime. So please get off your soapbox and think for minute before you open your trap! I happen to believe very much in fair chase but have learned life isn't always fair to all and in the case of my daughter, this little boys and countless others have gotten the shaft on no account of their own but still thrive to live life to the fullest and teach us what is important truly is simply nothing short of amazing. We bump and bubble over the little adversities, stresses, hardship which really hail in comparison to what they face every minute/hour of each day, yet still they approach life with vigor, hope and strength. Spend some time with such individuals and you'll see what I mean...you'll go home counting your blessing but also a different man!

In many cases these accomplishments you or I take for granted are huge hurdles in their daily life and really amount to much more personal growth than doing it our way(the hard way..haha). I guess you've never known a cancer patient or disabled person,etc otherwise you'd realize accomplishment vary drasitically but are no less important or meaningful to the individual or those who are part of their lives. Seeing the smile on my daughters face being able to write her name unhelped is better than any animal I have harvested or other thing I have accomplished in my life!

Hunter_59 04-26-2005 08:25 PM

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Well spoken skeeter, I also have a handicapped daughter and it's this kind of trash that gets my hackles up real quick. My daughter will never live on her own, let alone do some of the things in life that we all take for granted. She faces adversity every day of her life but will win the heart of anyone willing to take the time to get to know her. I've learned a lot about life from her and she continues to teach me to be thankful for all that I can do and to live life to the fullest. I intend to do just that!

People who attack the handicapped are "losers", plain and simple!

skeeter 7MM 04-26-2005 08:44 PM

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Hunter 59, I am truly sorry to hear about your daughter. I feel for you and agree 100 % whole heartily.

Best of luck, keep on counting the blessing and enjoy everything she brings to life. My thoughts/prayers are with you and your family!

pookibear 04-26-2005 08:54 PM

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well put gentlmen

children in general need all the encouragemeant they can get with every thing there up against in todays world . any memory that a child has is our responsabilty to try are best to make it positive .hugs + smiles+and a pat on the back great job no mater what there doing . when someones life is cut short and there faced with outnumbering odds they need all the FRIENDS they can get

for the record my son was born with spinabiffda he is 15 he cant hunt big game till 16 but hes looking forward to his first bear hunt with dad and i dont care if i have to lasso the @#@#@# thing ..... congrats on the bull blake great job ..... hunter at heart but a dad first

ShatoDavis 04-27-2005 09:32 AM

RE: Determination!
 
So let me get this right... anyone who pays a guide, or pays a landowner to cross his land, or hunts on his own ranch is not a "true hunter" by your definition. Hum, I've hunted canada...and as I'm sure most are aware for a non resident to hunt canada they must hunt with a guide. Much the same as the wilderness areas of Wyoming. So I suppose that I'm not a hunter. I quess my elk is not a trophy. I guess that someone else who hiked up that mountain, pulled myself over the cliff. I guess someone else slept on the side of that mountain. I guess that was someone else packing him out on their back. I guess I'm no hunter at all.

Elkcrazy8 04-27-2005 02:19 PM

RE: Determination!
 
ShatoDavis, next time you want to give up your tag so easily give me a hollar.

skeeter 7MM 04-28-2005 07:20 PM

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ShatoDavis, mamboy has a serious case of AE and most likely suffers from NSF. Therefore he must resort to the tactics he has shown off so marvelously in this post to make himself feel superior for his personal position however clearly has never been on any other side of the coin, so his comments are not of experience and really hold no relevancy. Basically just blowin' it out his A$$....big suprise now has gone MIA! [:'(]

huntnmuleys 04-28-2005 09:47 PM

RE: Determination!
 
what the hell are AE and NSF??????

guess im clueless.

i can see what manboy was saying, and while im not sure i agree with this being the time or place to say it, part of it rings true to me, i dont like high fence hunting (not that this partucular elk was high fence, i know it wasnt), and i do value my trophies more that i have worked harder for, even if their headgear was smaller than others ive shot. that being said, im happy as hell for this kid, i dont want to lose a leg, and cant imagine how difficult this would be minus one.

just my thoughts.
gotta steal this next line from whoever said it, its freakin hilarious...

BE A MAN, NOT A MANBOY!!!!!!!

brad

Hunter_59 04-29-2005 03:41 PM

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any memory that a child has is our responsabilty to try are best to make it positive .hugs + smiles+and a pat on the back great job no mater what there doing . when someones life is cut short and there faced with outnumbering odds they need all the FRIENDS they can get
I agree wholeheartedly pookibear! Todays kids are under alot more pressure to "perform" in todays world, ie; be a great athlete, a straight A student, the best dressed, the best looking, etc. Kids today are under too much pressure! Let's give em a pat on the back and tell them good job every chance we get.

Just two days ago, a 23 year old committed suicide just 15 miles away from here. I here he drank anti-freeze because his girlfriend broke up with him. What's wrong with this world that a kid even considers suicide because of something that occupies such a small part of a human life! Didn't this kid have anything in life to hold on to when times get rough? We all share part of the blame in this! Pat a kid on the back and tell him great job whenever you can. You never know when you may save his life!

pookibear 04-30-2005 09:31 PM

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that is so tragic hunter_59 sad story. its all to true to often

i had a brother who was living in kelona b.c back in 94 he did the same thing over a broken marriage except he used a hunting rifle to take his own life left behind two young daughters[&o]

Rattlesnake_98 05-01-2005 07:08 AM

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I think quite a few of us would agree with the spirit of Manboy's message (or at least parts of it), but the timing and delivery were completely out of line. I doubt anyone had any misplaced illusions of this young boy spending days trekking through the mountains in search of this fine trophy. We all understand that there are limitations to his hunting abilities.

Hunter_59 05-01-2005 07:32 AM

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I think quite a few of us would agree with the spirit of Manboy's message (or at least parts of it), but the timing and delivery were completely out of line.
I agree Rattlesnake, but put the emphasis on the "timing and delivery were completely out of line"! This is a 12 year old cancer patient who lost a leg to this horrible disease. For you and I, a ranch hunt is not what were after, but if tragedy strikes and I lose the ability to hunt in a wild, fair chase manner, then a ranch hunt will sound pretty exciting!

Think of some of the hunts you have been on, mountain climbing, horse riding, stream crossing, brush busting. Now imagine doing it on 1 leg! Let's give this kid a pat on the back. He's doing what he loves to do, the best way he can.

txhunter58 05-01-2005 08:14 AM

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Sorry guys, but the "spirit" of manBoy's message is that this 12 year old boy did something wrong and he should not be proud of the elk he killed because he killed it on private land (not high fenced). He is wrong on ALL counts and you partially agreeing with him on THIS thread is only lending credibitily to his claim. If you want to disscuss it elsewhere, go for it, but not here. This one is about congratualting a young boy on fighting a good fight and realizing a dream. Power to him.

The title of this thread says it all: DETERMINATION. This kid did it all right, and I am very proud to call him a fellow hunter. Congratualtions! Hope you have many more good hunting trips and you are welcome at my campfire any time!

Hunter_59 05-01-2005 11:19 AM

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Let me clear this up, txhunter58. I'm not one of those people who agree with the "spirit" of manboy's message! He is wrong on all accounts! I'm just agreeing with Rattlesnake in that there will be several hunters on this thread that dissagree with ranch hunts. I myself, at this time, would not want a ranch hunt but, if I were to lose a leg, I would jump on a ranch hunt in a minute. Blake should be proud of what he has accomplished!

Sniper151 05-01-2005 12:02 PM

RE: Determination!
 
Nice job Blake! You're going to need a bigger trophy room to hang that fella.:D

manboy 05-01-2005 01:37 PM

RE: Determination!
 
so txhunter u like the no fair chase also?


have u ever elk hunted? well i mean really elk hunted not a texas elk hunt? was it as easy as drive around in my truck spot the elk get out and shoot it? all of my hunts have been a little harder than that!


and as far as blake's hunt i am glad he got what he wanted, he was very determined, and he was rewarded!


that is just not my cup of tea!




270 i like them, i just don't own one!:D

txhunter58 05-01-2005 07:58 PM

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Let's see, I killed an elk in Montana several years ago 4 miles from the end of a road. The 29" 8x7 mule deer that I shot (mentioned on the Colorado high country hunt thread that you posted on) was over 5 miles from the truck and we were totally backpacking that hunt. Killed him at timberline at 11,000 ft. That was a great hunt! Last year I hunted elk with a blackpowder over 4 miles from my truck in Colorado but was unsuccessful, and next fall I will be doing a southwestern Colorado bow hunt for elk. That will be a swap hunt, so I don't know exactly how far we will be in, but lets just say that my swap friends say we will be going where 99% of the hunters don't go, so it should be an interesting hunt also. Out of the last 8 years, I have hunted elk 7 times and mule deer once and killed 4 elk and 1 mulie. And for the record, all of these animals were taken on public land. So yes, I believe I do have some experience in the type of hunt you are talking about. None of which has anything to do with this thread.

Buckshot 05-05-2005 07:44 PM

RE: Determination!
 
Lets cut off manboys leg and give him a serious disease and see if he thinks this type of hunt is challeging. Dude you need to check yourself, let the kid has his day in the sun, lord knows its been raining on him for quite some time.

UThunter 05-07-2005 03:18 AM

RE: Determination!
 
Manboy likes boys

huntnmuleys 05-07-2005 09:20 AM

RE: Determination!
 

ORIGINAL: UThunter

Manboy likes boys

wow, dynamite drop in there uthunter. did you think of that all by yourself, or did ya ask your buddies for help???

brad

txhunter58 05-07-2005 01:18 PM

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I'd have to agree with huntnmuleys on that one. No call for that kind of talk. Two wrongs definately don't make a right.


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