recoil
#1
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Join Date: May 2004
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recoil
I have read lots of tables that give various ft/lbs for the recoil of various sporting rifles, but they dont give an 'ouch' factor. At what level is recoil ok , when does it effect shooting and when does in really hurt. My 308 is classed as mild. if you fire it a couple of times then I agree. If your on the range and fire a 100 then it hurts and I cant hit anything. Taking just a normal days hunting when does recoil become a problem. At what ft/lb level.
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
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RE: recoil
I am not sure how to gauge the "ouch" factor. However, I am pretty recoil shy. By that I mean that much recoil makes me less accurate. I am 6" and 185 lbs, and even my 270 will get to me at the shooting range, espeically when shooting Hornady 140 grain light magnum ammunition. What did I do about it? On my 270, I put a slip on recoil arrestor that is awesome for reduction of recoil ( a limb saver recoil pad). I got the slip on because it also fits my 7mm mag and my T/C Omega muzzleloader.
I also own a 338 win mag that really doesn' t seem to kick much, although I haven't shot it for long stretches at the range. I think it is because the gun is almost 10 lbs. A heavier gun definately helps with recoil.
I would recommend trying a limb saver pad. It will make a big difference. http://www.cliffsgunsmithing.com/Cat...imb_Saver.htm# Remember that the slip on will add length to your gun unlike relpacing the existing pad with a custom fit pad. And no, I don't own stock in the company.
I also own a 338 win mag that really doesn' t seem to kick much, although I haven't shot it for long stretches at the range. I think it is because the gun is almost 10 lbs. A heavier gun definately helps with recoil.
I would recommend trying a limb saver pad. It will make a big difference. http://www.cliffsgunsmithing.com/Cat...imb_Saver.htm# Remember that the slip on will add length to your gun unlike relpacing the existing pad with a custom fit pad. And no, I don't own stock in the company.
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MB.
Posts: 2,984
RE: recoil
That’s a pretty hard question to answer. All depends on the individual. For my self shooting 7mm Rem. mag is not a problem up to a point. I could shoot 20 , 30 round without having any problem but after that and depending on the load it’s starts bothering me. That’s when I stop. No sense in shooting if you’re going to be all over the paper because of the so called ouch factor.
My brother has a 338 Win Mag. and I hate shooting that rifle at the range, especially when it was time to sight it in. Shooting at a deer is not a problem but shooting at paper is something else.
Definitely having a heavier gun will help but it all depend on the individual as I mentioned..
My brother has a 338 Win Mag. and I hate shooting that rifle at the range, especially when it was time to sight it in. Shooting at a deer is not a problem but shooting at paper is something else.
Definitely having a heavier gun will help but it all depend on the individual as I mentioned..
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2003
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RE: recoil
Taking just a normal days hunting when does recoil become a problem. At what ft/lb level
That being said I sure wish I could learn to shoot big magnums better off of the bench? There must be some tricks to shooting the big magnums off of the bench?[] The best I can do with a 300-win mag is about 20-rounds before I start to flench.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: meridian idaho USA
Posts: 429
RE: recoil
Bambi,
I can shoot all day at the bench and it doesn't bother me cause I use the head cover off my driver as a recoil pad between my rifle and my shoulder.
Shooting at the range is not a test of how much punishment the shooter can take.
I would say for me the difference would be at the 25-06 to .280 jump.
25-06 I can shoot without even thinking about the recoil, when I go to the .280 I start to notice it, mainly because I pay close attention to keeping the scope away from my eye as I got busted there pretty good with a 7mag and don't ever want to have that happen again.
Took me a long time to get over the resulting flinch!
Shooting in the field I normally hunt with my .300 win mag and I never notice the recoil in the field.
You can lessen your recoil by using lighter bullets at slower velocity and choosing a powder that requires less grains of powder to reach your desired velocity in your loads, also using a heavier rifle and a good recoil pad help a lot.
I can shoot all day at the bench and it doesn't bother me cause I use the head cover off my driver as a recoil pad between my rifle and my shoulder.
Shooting at the range is not a test of how much punishment the shooter can take.
I would say for me the difference would be at the 25-06 to .280 jump.
25-06 I can shoot without even thinking about the recoil, when I go to the .280 I start to notice it, mainly because I pay close attention to keeping the scope away from my eye as I got busted there pretty good with a 7mag and don't ever want to have that happen again.
Took me a long time to get over the resulting flinch!
Shooting in the field I normally hunt with my .300 win mag and I never notice the recoil in the field.
You can lessen your recoil by using lighter bullets at slower velocity and choosing a powder that requires less grains of powder to reach your desired velocity in your loads, also using a heavier rifle and a good recoil pad help a lot.
#8
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Yorkton Sask canada
Posts: 35
RE: recoil
hey bambi
i also own a 308. it scares the liven *#*$ out of me even when i'm taken a shot at a deer or on the bench. i shot my buddy 300 win mag and it didn't even bother me due to the way they kick.
I know my 308 kicks up and back where the 300 kicked straight back
i also own a 308. it scares the liven *#*$ out of me even when i'm taken a shot at a deer or on the bench. i shot my buddy 300 win mag and it didn't even bother me due to the way they kick.
I know my 308 kicks up and back where the 300 kicked straight back
#9
RE: recoil
Alot of recoil is due to stock fit also,if you have 308 kicken ya realy hard look at the stock desing.I have a Savage .270 that kicks the heck out of me,but a freinds daughter all ways uses it for deer and she loves it,takes over my Ruger #1 25-06.
I shoot some pretty stout guns 300 RUM,300 WSM,.338 WM and a .416 Rem. these are guns on the upper class of recoil and they don't hurt me as bad as that .270
They say a persons comfort range is around 15-18 ft/ bs of recoil,that is about the upper end of a 180gr. 30-06 or 150 gr. 270.
A 300 WSM is about 23 ft/lbs
A .338 Win Mag is right around 30-35 ft/lbs and .300 RUM is at 42 ft/lbs of recoil OUCH!!
Chuck Hawks used to have recoil tabel you could look at but now you have to be a member of the web page.
I shoot some pretty stout guns 300 RUM,300 WSM,.338 WM and a .416 Rem. these are guns on the upper class of recoil and they don't hurt me as bad as that .270
They say a persons comfort range is around 15-18 ft/ bs of recoil,that is about the upper end of a 180gr. 30-06 or 150 gr. 270.
A 300 WSM is about 23 ft/lbs
A .338 Win Mag is right around 30-35 ft/lbs and .300 RUM is at 42 ft/lbs of recoil OUCH!!
Chuck Hawks used to have recoil tabel you could look at but now you have to be a member of the web page.
#10
RE: recoil
Being at the range vs in the field hunting are worlds apart, as wolf said I have never recalled the recoil when shooting at game. I can say I have felt it off a bench though. The tolerance to recoil is dependant on the person, I would simply go by when you start to feel it...pack up. Absolutely nothing good will come out of spraying paper or becoming aware of recoil. I have shoulder problems and as soon as I feel the tingle I am done for that day - somedays it can be 20 rounds others it can be 50. When I had a 300wby. I'd implement the services of an insulated glove which allowed me to shoot comfortably. I just rapped it with duct tape and removed it following my range sessions, of course in the field it was never a problem or required as you won't be plinking off 20 rounds at a time...I HOPE!