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Does this qualify as Big Game?
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Can anyone say Veal?
Her Momma was really MAD at "her" for continuing to walk toward the truck. Momma was snorting up a storm! (we were that close) Pretty Little Thing. I'd bet her hooves didn't exceed an inch and a 1/4 in length, if that. I've seen only 1 I KNOW was younger and that was where the doe died while giving birth. The lamb was 1/2way out (obviously dead) REM7600 PS: Bet you'd need a Barnes or Woodleigh to bring her down! :-) |
Lamb? baby deer are fawns not lambs.
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TO OldTimer
I shouldn't do this, but I have tried be civil with you.
Take your "higher than thou" and "turn me in to the moderators here again" Mr. Warden. They are lambs where I grew up, here in the West, yes they are fawns. I still refer to them as lambs or button bucks. Is there something to argue about here? Tell me please, where can I shoot a Faux? I want to have some quality leather done from an animal I lawfully take. You have accused me of being a criminal in the past. I suppose this post will be deleted and get me kicked out again by moderators. Moderator's please have a look at my public posts before making a decision. No foul language in this one... so is it an opinion? Or just an opinion that differs from another user? I love the picture... I was heading on a fly-fishing trip with my wife when I happened across the lil girl... AND took a pretty good picture. If I said "faon" or "adular" would I be wrong? IMO, no we should each have the right to FREE speech. REM7600 PS: Feel Free to Correct my Grammar |
Now that was a funny rant. btw, I cant recall turning you into the moderators but after that rant, I can see why it happened.
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Rant? NO, just an opinion.
REM7600 PS: Hope some others enjoy the picture in the original post. I think it was cute. |
Well, it is a fawn. :p
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IMO< its a VERY early drop of a baby deer!
I have found a lot of them over the yrs and even been lucky enough to see a few being born! I don't typically start to see them here for a few more weeks here is one my dog found a few yrs back now(only pic I have handy) |
Seeing the little baby fawns is what keeps be bear hunting. I can't stand the idea of bears eating those babies. The same thing with coyotes.
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Originally Posted by REM_7600
(Post 4333841)
They are lambs where I grew up, here in the West, yes they are fawns. I still refer to them as lambs or button bucks. Is there something to argue about here?
Baby antelope - fawn Baby elk - calf Baby moose - calf Baby caribiou - calf Baby bison - calf Baby mountain goat - kid Baby sheep - lamb Don't know where you are from but I have hunted all over the country and the above has been used everywhere I have ever had a tag. On a side note, someone really has a twist in their panties. Lighten up. |
flags,
you're entitled; and I'm not trying to make enemies. (I've liked you're opinions while being here) My "pantie twist" is warranted, perhaps I should stop wearing Victoria Secret products; if you knew all the facts exchanged it MIGHT change your mind. The picture is of a lamb! I stand by that! Even if here, in the West, it's referred to as a toehead, or fawn... I won't argue that. If I can't tell the sex because it's too young, it's a lamb to me. YMMV and I do understand you've hunted and probably killed more game than I. Do you really want to argue semantics? I don't disagree with any of your descriptions...however, I'm thinking this forum might be ruled by just a few and that's why we're all seeing only a few posts per day across the board. I really wish it would be a little more open to various ideas. REM7600 -- PM me if you want to continue dialogue |
We've talked in PM but i'm still trying to understand your thinking.
Let's say you have a newborn sheep and a newborn deer on the ground. You're asked the question..........Which one is the lamb? Your answer would be? "They both are". Here's another way to put it. You're asked. What's the difference between a fawn and a lamb? Your answer would be what? |
why not call it a baby deer and not argue about it. who cares what someone else calls it.
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
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We've talked in PM but i'm still trying to understand your thinking.
Let's say you have a newborn sheep and a newborn deer on the ground. You're asked the question..........Which one is the lamb? Your answer would be? "They both are". Here's another way to put it. You're asked. What's the difference between a fawn and a lamb? Your answer would be what? |
If you like calling it veal, who cares? It's your dinner table. How many of us have fudged a little when serving some game meat to a guest just to get them to try it? :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by Mr. Slim
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why not call it a baby deer and not argue about it. who cares what someone else calls it.
You can even call it a lamb. |
Trust me guys,
It isn't the first time I've taken grief for it. REM7600 |
I'm not surprised. Hunters in general know wildlife better than the average person. Animals have proper names. It's so everybody knows what you're talking about and is on the same page.
If you told me you saw a lamb with no picture. I'd assume you saw a baby sheep. It makes it easier than making up names. Would you call a moose an elk? It's no difference. In talking to you in a PM I can see you're a good guy. It's just the name thingy that's a bit strange. ;) |
Before someone calls me on it. I used a bad example. I know a moose in Europe is called an elk. You know what I meant.
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What do they know in Europe? I wouldn't worry about what they do.:D
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
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Here's another way to put it. You're asked. What's the difference between a fawn and a lamb? Your answer would be what?
Going back and looking at the evolution of both words. Lamb *can be* basically, "innocent". Fawn can be the young of any animal, "young animal". Language evolves. Here, large ruminant young are called Kalb (Calf) small Ruminant young are call Kitz. They may call them Lambs (just a guess) because they make a very similar noise when they are calling their mothers. A Doe may abandon a very youngFawn when threatened, my take on it is they lead the predator away. Fawn are scent neutral, hard to find. Fawn will bleat to lead the mother back to the spot where she left the Fawn, often after dark. |
MC, thanks!
Makes sense, I'm not very evolved... I still keep myself in a cave, I have evolved far enough to have a vent when I light a fire to keep warm. :-) I'm not seriously concerned... like I said, this isn't a first rodeo on my terminology. REM7600 PS: you hear a "fawn" cry out I for one would be hard pressed to tell the difference from a sheep. Professional farmer would disagree, I'm sure... How often have I seen a sheep in my whitetail hunting? Grand Total: NONE. :-) I do use manual calls and don't believe any whitetail hunter should go to the field without one. |
Y'all make me want to start calling them "hind puppies" just to be different.
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Originally Posted by younggun308
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Y'all make me want to start calling them "hind puppies" just to be different.
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That's funny guys'.
You are making me feel I'm in good company; around the wood fired, cast iron, stove in the camp; beforewe go out in the AM, sharing a whiskey/bourbon on the rocks before the next days' adventure AND arguing whether a .308, .270, or '06 is best! I've switched to 7mm-08 after using it for a few years. I still have my .338 if I need to reach out from the 40 ft up climbing stand! REM7600 |
Originally Posted by REM_7600
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That's funny guys'.
You are making me feel I'm in good company; around the wood fired, cast iron, stove in the camp; beforewe go out in the AM, sharing a whiskey/bourbon on the rocks before the next days' adventure AND arguing whether a .308, .270, or '06 is best! I've switched to 7mm-08 after using it for a few years. I still have my .338 if I need to reach out from the 40 ft up climbing stand! REM7600 MudderChuck, aren't spousal inside jokes the best? My wife and I have a long trolling dictionary, ourselves; however, it sounds as though the entries in ours don't make as much sense as yours do. |
As an aside, 7600, your comment did inspire me to pour myself some Knob Creek.
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Originally Posted by MudderChuck
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My wife is a school teacher and really anal about the language, I call eggs "Butt nuggets" and mashed potatoes "smashed potatoes" and pan cakes "panny cakes", just because it irritates her. :)
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Good gawdddd...this has turned into a love fest. Potatoes ...Potaatoes. I call them fawns here in vermont. The moose are calves, the bears are cubs and the yotes are called dead by those who hunt them. Pouring rain here today, stiff north wind and only 42 degrees and won't change for the better so I am not going fishing. You can have your bourbon I am a beer drinker with a summer choice of gin and tonics when I run out of beer. :guiness:
Pancakes are flap jacks at my house and waffles are for sissies. |
Shoot a lamb (baby sheep) and tell the warden it's a fawn (baby deer) when you have a deer tag. Then let us know how that turns out for you.
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Originally Posted by REM_7600
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flags,
REM7600 -- PM me if you want to continue dialogue fawn (noun) 1. a young deer in its first year. 2. a light yellowish-brown color. lamb (noun) 1. a young sheep. (verb) 1. (of a ewe) give birth to lambs. So the rest of the world is right and you are wrong but you lack the humility to admit it. And you want me to PM you? Sorry but I'm particular about who I PM and you didn't make the cut. |
Originally Posted by MudderChuck
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https://www.google.de/search?q=fawn+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtvoPyNp79o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK7cXv9gqoE I can picture someone calling a Fawn a Lamb. Really? I find it easy to tell the difference. Not that I would identify any animal by sound alone. I want to see it. |
You two quit fawning over lambs, and kindly tell us whether you're with CI on drinking beer and gin or if you're with the nectar of Dixie.
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I drop by on occasion, I've bowhunted a wide variety of biggame in 15 states & 2 Canadian provinces & nice photo of a Fawn.. We usually start seeing fawns mid May & most MaMas don't bring them out until late June. Twins last year next to our Deck.
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I've never used or heard used the terminology the OP is implying. If I said such a thing, my hunting friends would think I'd fell off my rocker. To each their own. I certainly wouldn't tempt this conversation over a good meal. (Or any other time for that matter)
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flags got butthurt...
Check your facts flags. The Upper NorthEast is where the no-one would argue something so stupid. Not enough content on the forums; but for the moderators, don't just delete my message here. Delete the entire stupid thread. Signing out. REM7600 |
:D:D:happy0157::happy0157: Who started the stupid thread?
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Originally Posted by REM_7600
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flags got butthurt...
Check your facts flags. The Upper NorthEast is where the no-one would argue something so stupid. Not enough content on the forums; but for the moderators, don't just delete my message here. Delete the entire stupid thread. Signing out. REM7600 "They are lambs where I grew up, here in the West" on post number 3? How is the west now the upper northeast? Here's a little tidbit, my wife is from NH and her family hunts deer there and in ME. Want to guess what they call a baby deer? They call them fawns and you can't get anymore upper northeast than NH and ME! I can't speak for anyone else but you officially have ZERO credibility with me as of this minute. I doubt I'll waste any more effort on you in any thread. Some people just insist on being stuck on goofy and you seem to fit that bill. |
Flags, I confess I have a hard time understanding how you take this forum so seriously to the point where you make statements like:
And you want me to PM you? Sorry but I'm particular about who I PM and you didn't make the cut. I doubt I'll waste any more effort on you in any thread. For someone who doesn't want to "waste" time on threads you find ridiculous, you sure go out of your way to press the issue. It's a forum; it's supposed to be fun. I admire your knowledge and experience. I could bet I'll never have as much in my lifetime, and I'm thankful someone like you contributes to this forum. But there's just got to be a way to call people out that doesn't drive them away. That's not how I remember the dynamics this site at its zenith, but today it's predictable: new person gets eager to get into conversations, floods forums with posts, irritates the ancien regime, gets driven off. We won't be around much longer, that way. The truth is, I don't think you are wrong most of the time. I just really wish we could hang onto people more, even ones who you don't think seem to know anything. |
Originally Posted by younggun308
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Flags, I confess I have a hard time understanding how you take this forum so seriously to the point where you make statements like:
and Nobody minds you thinking that calling fawns "lambs" is stupid (the majority seem to agree it seems off), but I don't think the forum becomes a better place when people get driven over the edge. I wish we had more people commenting, not fewer. For someone who doesn't want to "waste" time on threads you find ridiculous, you sure go out of your way to press the issue. It's a forum; it's supposed to be fun. I admire your knowledge and experience. I could bet I'll never have as much in my lifetime, and I'm thankful someone like you contributes to this forum. But there's just got to be a way to call people out that doesn't drive them away. That's not how I remember the dynamics this site at its zenith, but today it's predictable: new person gets eager to get into conversations, floods forums with posts, irritates the ancien regime, gets driven off. We won't be around much longer, that way. The truth is, I don't think you are wrong most of the time. I just really wish we could hang onto people more, even ones who you don't think seem to know anything. I didn't find anything wrong with 7600's post. The veal and lamb references were completely appropriate. It was not meant literally but simply as a way to describe tender meat and a young baby. Sometimes people's long signature with their "look at me" accomplishments gives away their need to prove they're superior to the rest of us. |
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