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JUST A NOTE FOR ALL CONCERNED, LAST SPRING ON THIS SITE I WAS THE "WINNER" OF AN AUCTION FOR A RAM HUNT FROM ROCKING HEART ELK RANCH IN NEBRASKA. WENT AND TOOK A NICE CORSICAN RAM AND THE OWNER RON SCHERBATH WHO ALSO DOES TAXIDERMERY QUOTED A PRICE AND A TIME FOR COMPLETION ALONG WITH REPAIRING A BROKEN TIP ON ONE HORN. WHILE IT WAS NOT MY CUP OF TEA AS FAR AS HUNTING GOES , I BOUGHT IT MAINLY FOR THE MOUNT. WELL THE 2 TO 3 MONTH PERIOD WENT BY THAT HE QUOTED THE MOUNT WOULD BE DONE I SENT AN EMAIL AND HE SAID 60 MORE DAYS OR SO THAT EXPIRED AND SENT ANOTHER EMAIL AND AGAIN 60 DAYS OR SO THAT EXPIRED AND MONTH LATER SENT MORE EMAILS ASKING FOR STATUS DID NOT GET REPLY SENT TWO MORE WITH A LOT STRONGER CONTENT AND FINALLY GOT REPLY. 2 MORE WEEKS HE SAID ALONG WITH WHINING THAT I WAS BEING UNREASONABLE [YEA I WAS REALLY UNREASONABLE I NEVER MADE OR BROKE ONE PROMISE UNLIKE HIM] WELL LO AND BEHOLD SEVERAL DAYS LATER THE MOUNT ARRIVES AND I KNEW BEFORE I OPENED IT I WAS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY AND INDEED I WAS NOT HAPPY THE MOUNT WAS FINE BUT THE HACK NEVER FIXED THE HORN LIKE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY ADVERTIZE HERE THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS A REPUTABLE
BUSINESS. SORRY FOR THE LENGHTY POST BUT THIS REALLY TEES ME OFF

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Sorry to hear about your problem.I find it a better practice to have my taxidermy work brought home with me where I know and trust my taxidermist.It might be a hassel in the begining tranporting capes and horn or antler back but then I'm sure of the quality of work I will receive.

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...especially when you put the rush and pressure on the taxidermist. Most good quality taxidermy has around a one year turn around time. I'd be very leary on faster turn around times, especially when repairs are included. The taxidermist should of been more responsive in my opinion, but it doesn't surprise me that he sent it out the door to get you off his back.
ArcticBowMan's Hunting Photo's

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ARTICBOWMAN,THERE WAS NO PRESSURE OR RUSH PUT ON HIM BY ME. I WAS ONLY GOING BY WHAT HE QUOTED AS THE TURN AROUND TIME. HE IS THE ONE THAT QUOTED PRICE AND TURN AROUND TIME IF HE HAD SAID ONE OR EVEN TWO YEARS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NO PROBLEM , JUST TAKING HIM AT HIS WORD

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Articbowman is right if you are getting a mount back in 2 or 3 months I would be very leary .It may not have been commercialy tanned and that can cause problems down the road.Also most good and reputable taxidermists have a work log that doesn't permit such a fast turn around.

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my last mout took almost a year.it was a wild hog

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just going by what the manb promised he is supposed to be an award winning taxidermist. though now i think i know what kind of awards he has earned. nothing to do now but move forward and for all that read this to keep it in your mind. just a damn shame but it is another example of what is wrong with this country today

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Its been eight months and he promised three,I think I would be upset too .

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I understand that a mount would most likely take a year or longer, but if the guy says 3 months then by golly he better have it in 3 months. If a mans word aint no good, then what good is the man?

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I would be mad too! If you say you're gonna do something, then by god do it!

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Always have your own taxidermist. Someone that you know and trust. Shop around, see what their work looks like, ask others about their reputation. When you find someone you like, stick with them. The guy I deal with has a two year waiting list on returns, he tells you that up front. He's never disappointed me and he does outstanding work. He currently is not taking new customers because he is so booked up. It's more of a relationship than business.

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One thing I've learnt dealin' with pink-arsed mama's boys ever year is thet they all got their stories. They look at things thru their own hazy eyeballs an' rarely see things as they are. Fact: no real taxidermist will promise a mount in less than a year. If he does, he's an amatuer. Fact: any client pesterin' a outfitter 'bout a unrealistic expectation ain't gonna git treated like he's was anythin' more than a nusance. The guy got you a good hunt an' a trophy. Thet's his job. Not panderin' to yer ever wish an' pipe dream. Grow up.

BJ

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BEAVERJACK, YOU ILLITERATE MORON IT YOU KNEW HOW TO READ YOU WOULD NOT POST SOME STUPID REPLY LIKE YOU DID.THE FACT IS I NEVER PESTERED ANYONE I TOOK THE MAN AT HIS WORD AND I QUESS WITH HIM AND YOU A MANS WORD MEANS NOTHING.YOU MUST BE RELAATED TO THIS HACK RON SCHERBARTH CAUSE YOU PROBABLY TREATED YOUR CUSTOMERS JUST LIKE HIM. NO WONDER YOUR NOT GUIDING ANYMORE PROBABLY HAD NO ONE LEFT TO GUIDE. A MANS WORD IS HIS BOND AND PLAIN AND SIMPLE HE DID NOT LIVE UP TO HIS WORD. YOU CAN PROBABLY RELATE TO THAT AS YOU SOUND JUST LIKE HIM

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if you had ever had a mount done before you should have known this to be too soon and should have asked about it. if you did not have a previous mount you should have asked around to cinfirm this amount of time. if you had done this there would never have been a problem.

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HEY I DONT KNOW IF SOME OF YOU PEOPLE CAN NOT READ OR WHAT. FIRST AND FORMOST IF I GET ANYTHING DONE BY ANYONE THEN IT MUST BE SOMETHING THAT I CAN NOT DO. SO AT THAT POINT THEY ARE THE EXPERT IF THEY SAY THEY CAN SHOOT FLAMING BALLS OUT OF THEIR A-S THEN WHO AM I TO ARGUE WITH THEM. BUT WHEN THEY TELL ME THAT THEN THEY HAD BETTER PUT ON ONE HELL OF A SHOW WITH THEM FLAMING BALLS. IF A SO CALLED AWARD WINNING TAXIDERMIST SAYS HE CAN DO A MOUNT IN THREE MONTHS THEN HE CAN DO IT NOT BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT AFTER 3 MONTHS TO KEEP SAYING 60 DAYS 60 DAYS 60 DAYS.

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you still should have checked on the time period. you could have called other taxidermist. chance favors the prepared mind. you should been prepared for what a taxidermist does when you decided to get a mount.with all these calls and mails you made to him, why did you not check with other taxidermist?

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I HAVE CHECKED WITH OTHER TAXIDERMISTS . I PRESENTLY HAVE A COYOTE AND AN ELK AT THE TAXIDERMIST AND IT HAS BEEN ABOUT 15 MONTHS NOW WHEN I TOOK THEM IN HE SAID AROUND TWO YEARS SO NO PROBLEM.

bob dunning

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if this guy had said 15 years would you have accepted it because he was a expert?no!! you woulkd have asked around. you should have done that this time also.

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bob d is now sending me emails callin me and idiot. i am not the one who expected a mount in 3 months.

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You do kinda sound like an idiot though.


"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"

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Thet's the thing 'bout this internet stuff. You git yer chicken sh!t PAMBs spoutin' off to the whole world runnin' some feller down, when there's two sides to ever tale. My suggestion is thet you buy a plane ticket back to the outfitter's state, meet the feller, an' tell him face to face what you think of him. Thet would be the manly thing to do 'stead of sh!ttin' on the man here from the comfort of yer livin' room. When did american men loose their backbone an' start soundin' like a bunch of pre-menstral wimmins?

BJ

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BEAVERJACK
it happened at whatever time you came to when you thought everyone in the world wanted to listen to your sniveling about people coming to your area and hunting but you dont think you have to hear anything about anyone else. i can just imagine what happened to you beaverjack some [ using your words here ] [ pink arsed boy probably whipped your arse for you ]

bob dunning

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i just considered the level of intelligence and saw what the problem was.going to a taxidermist unprepared is like going hunting without knowing anything about hunting.the ultimate blame lays on the hunter.

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<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>PAMBs? Can I take a guess? Would that be punk a** mommas boys? Hate to see it but I think this thread has taken a wrong turn and is destined for the lock. But before we go, was i correct?

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When all else fails use a momma joke!!! LOL Can't we all get along!!!

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Nub,
Yer close. Pink being the correct word. I wouldn't all a feller a punk. Thet's jus' too mean.

I hope they don't lock this thread cause it is the prime example of what I been tryin' to git across 'bout fellers thet ain't got the temperment to hunt out west (PAMBs). They're too wrapped up in &quot;fairness&quot; an' the way the world is 'sposed to work accordin' to some civilized code they live by back on the block. Ain't nuthin' fair 'bout nature, an' we got plenty of nature out west. Also, there's differnt rules for dealin' with people out here. You don't go demandin' an' poutin' when you don't git yer way. A feller's word is the only thing he takes to his grave, sure, but when yer wronged, you need to stand up an' confront the feller 'stead of pissin' on his name. Could be, yer the one outta line. It ain't fer others to judge (don't the bible say sumthin' like thet?). I've had fellers kill the biggest bull of huntin' camp an' stiff me cause they wanted a bigger one. I've had fellers kill 375 class bulls an' refuse to take the trophy an' mos' the meat. I've seed fellers hell bent on doin' dangerous, stupid things an' then get pi$$ed at me cause I told 'em thet I wouldn't go along. I onct took a fellers rifle away an pitched it into a bush cause he kept pointin' it in unsafe directions. Now I'm sure these fellers don't think much of me an' are apt to use my name in unflatterin' ways when jabberin' to their pals back at the office. Call me suspicious, but I prefer to stay outta fights lessn' I know which is the right side.

BJ

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Awesome! BEAVERJACK ROCKS!!! Three months? Was he gonna freeze dry it? I understand being pi$$ed about a guy not standing by his word, but what the hell! Why are you so bent out of shape? You don't mind waiting for your other mounts so why didn't you just sit back and relax, let the man do his work, when he gets done he gets done, if it isn't within 3 months and you still want to bitch, FINE! But maybe it would have turned out better and you would have had a better quality mount. Live and learn I guess, but in my opinion lifes too damn short to get worked up over this crap.

Always remember what comes around, goes around.... Crap on this guy now, on a semi-public board and you risk having someone crap all over you to some extent some other time for whatever reason and you had better be ready for it. Then we'll see how you measure up to criticism.

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your right this thread is going south in a hurry. it was not my intention when i put it on for it to go there. i unfortunatly thought is was a forumto talk hunting and keep others informed so they dont get taken. but alas beaverjack and others start the pinkarse boy comments and why did you not check it out before hand blah blah blah. it boils down to the taxidermist set price and turn around time and was paid in full but took 3 times as long as he said and did not fix what he said he would and to use beaverjack's words here [a mans word is all he takes to the grave ]. enough said !!!!!!!so if you want to use him go ahead but dont say you were not warned

bob dunning

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reguardless of what amount of time he stated you should have asked around to confirm that much time.
this went south because of you and not others. you started the name calling and sending private emails. you made a mistake and are just to much the blame as the taxidermist. he was wrong for telling you 3 months and you were wrong for not confirming with others.you just choose to blame others. if you had ever had taxidermist work done you would have know this was impossible.

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dep214, i dont know how much you read but even on this site i have seen others saying they got their mounts back in short time. and i am not to blame here i never broke my word and your part of the reason this thread went south just as you have done on others. no wonder people send questions and comments through the site they dont want you bashing them

bob dunning

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Not trying to put blame on either party involved. But, I'm going to have to agree with others that you can't expect this type of work to be done on exact dates. It's to hard to do. Especially if you want quality work done. Now I can't say that the guy was right to tell you to expect your work done within a certain amount of time and then an excessive amount of time went by after that. Because it creates unreasonable expections. I know a friend of mine that does taxidermy on the side can't get a mount done for me in less then about 5-6 months, and he is only working on about 3-4 a year. But, if he told me it would be done in 4 months and it wasn't it would be no big deal. I would ask how it was coming and try to get a round about date from him. But, like a lot of people say, stuff happens, and maybe he can't get to it. You got to just let it go if you want a decent job. This guy may have just got it done as fast as he could because of the pressure put on him.

Here is another for instance: I have a longbow being made for me. Normal turn around time is about 10 months. Twelve months have passed now, and I still don't have my bow. I talked to the bowyer about a month ago and asked how the progress was coming. He told me of some family problems that he had during the past few months and he got somewhat behind. I told him &quot;no worry&quot;, wished him the best, and told him that I hope that everything works out for him. And I do genuinely mean that. However, there is no way that I'm going to demand my bow. And if I did, I wouldn't expect it to be completely the way I want. I really don't want him to feel like, jeez, I made this guy a promise, now I got to get this out the door as fast as possible.

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i have yet to see where anyone has gotten a mount in 3months or even 4 months. it appears it is about 9 months and longer. i do not know what thread you saw.
you were attacking anyone that disagreed with you and resorted more than once to name calling. i never sent you a private email or called you names. this was done just by you.
you sound very young and afraid to admit when you made a mistake. again the guy was wrong for saying 3 months. nothing has ever been done on a exact time or day basis. you were also wrong for not gathering more info thai is knowones fault but yout own. i have not seen many who have agreed with you either. you avoided the question as to if you had ever had a mount done before this. if you had you would have known the info you were given was wrong. otherwise it is part of your responsibilty to check and verify information. that is your fault for not doing so.
i will not and have not stooped to your level of name calling. this just shows immaturity on your part.

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bob d I would have to agree with you. I just read your post and everthing that everybody posted. I don't see how they can blame you. From what I see the guy told you three months. Are you just not suppose to contact him at all when the three months are up and just sit around. It sounds like you did what most people would have done and asked him what was going on. Is everybody on the sight saying that you should have used another taxidermist and this guy is shotty. If that is the case then that was the message you were trying to get accross. I would think that you would be able to take your ram back and get it fixed right. That how I would feel. Does your taxidermist say that yes he did tell you three months but he got busy or was that just a complete lie. It sounds like you got screwed by that taxidermist to me. I would go to him and ask what the problem was. Face to face is always the best. The phone or internet thing usually doesn't work. Everybody feels pretty tough when your not looking them in the eye.
BowElkDwn

Excitment of bugling Bulls

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I am almost afraid to put in my two cents worth on this one! I don`t want beat up, or worse, but here goes!
I have gotten many, and I mean many mounts back in 3-4 months. And from the hands down best taxidermist in the area. Some of the mounts are now 15 years old, and still in fantastic shape.

dep214, why would you call another taxidermist to verify a completion time of the original taxidermist? Am I missing something here?

Bob, you gotta cut ol` beaverjack some slack, the creeks been frozen over for quite awhile now.

You go that long without a bath, and see how touchy you get!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

NRA,UBP,BASS Member
New Stanton,PA

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it is just like buying a car. would you accept was a salesman told you or would you check around? you hav to use common sense here.i talked to several taxidermist here in this area and they have not heard of a mount being done in 3 months.they would have to cut corners and that would take away from the qyality of the mount.my father in law was a avid hunter.he had mounts from fish to elk.these were done from texas,new mexico, and colorado.my fish mount,black bass, took about 6 months.my hog mount took over a year. most of the hogs are done in about 9 months.when dealing with mother nature you can not pen down a exact time.
i ask this guy if he had ever had a mount done before. he avoided the question. this is prob where the problem is. it was his first mount or he would have known better than to think he woulkd get the mount back in 3 months.

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It sounds to me like the taxidermist told you 3 months to get the biz. Once they have the cape, horn and the deposit your stuck with the wait and he knew that. I have heard of this stuff before and although uncommon, it happens. I guess you know what not to do and what would be a reasonable turn around time next round. BTW, I would never push an artist, things don't always turn out and mounts are art. If he told you a timeframe, which was a guideline..although he was way off. He told you he would fix the horn...that never happened...but in my mind both are to blame. Sure he never held up his part of the bargin, but you never picked up the phone and talked to this guy...it is pretty easy to blow off emails. He might have had a perfectly good explaination but you continued to push and he just wanted you gone and now your gone.

I wouldn't say I am siding with him or you, both were in the wrong and IMHO share in the blame or outcome. Hopefully next time things will work out better for you, through this experience. I would suggest trying to get another taxidermist fix up your mount the way you would like, so you can get over this and enjoy your trophy.

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Hey dep, can I ask you a question? Thank`s!

How many animals/heads have you had mounted?


I`ll be back to see your answer, but right now I gotta call pizza hut to see if pizza outlet is telling me the truth about this delivery time? 25 minutes doesn`t sound right to me!<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

NRA,UBP,BASS Member
New Stanton,PA

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i have 9 mounts. i bass, i hog, and 7 deer.my father in law has 12 mounts. i bear, 1 pronghorn, and 10 deer.next question!!!!!

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i forgot to ask. are you the one making the delivery?