Looking to buy aPrimos elk kit from cabelas that includes:
Terminator Bugle
hoochie Mama cow call
hyper Lip

I've heard good things about the Hoochie mama but don't know a lot of the other two. The Buglelooksvery different fromnormal bugles is this a good kit including a instructional DVD and Primos the Truth 9 big bulls DVD for $50
you can see waht i'm looking at here

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0022276226317a&type=product&cm Cat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=primos+elk&N=4887&a mp;Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&am p;Ntt=primos+elk&noImage=0

Anything Primos sells will help you kill elk. I think their products are the very best and they don't sell a bunch of bullsh*t! I've learned a lot from watching Primos and Carltons videos. Will Primos and his pro staff are a class act. JMHO

that looks like a nice package to me

Out of that category i have only used the hoochie mama. Great call but it has its place and time. I also run a power bugle, quaker herd master and a mellow yellow mama diaphram. All those calls for 50 bones sounds like a pretty good deal to me hoochie mamas alone are up to 30 dollars or so here i believe.

thanks guys think i'll go with that one

Seems like a good deal to me as well. I use/like both the hoochie and hyper lip. Like mentioned ther hoochiehas its time and place(one dimensional call)but works in combination with otherswell for me. I personally don't care for the Terminator when used with the blue diaphram, the call has a very distinctive yoddle at the end that I have never heard a real bull replicate. With that said it is the most popular reed bugle in our camp. I use the terminator tube with mouth diaphrams and as well with the power bugle mouthpiece. So the tube is functional even if you don't like the mouthpiece/blue reed it comes packaged with.

A real quick comment on the Terminator! This particular call is a monster and it is really really loud if blown correctly. I have found no real way to use this call and be somewhat quiet and/or sound like a small satellite bull. That being said the package is a great deal, and you should add to it the Primos Pack Bugle. This bugle has the exact same mouthpiece as the Terminator and yet you can get out those really nice spike bull sounds to really upset a large bull when you are in close.

My recommendation is to blow the Terminator like the biggest bull on the mountain when you are way up top first thing in the morning. Locate your bull when he bugles back and then sneak in close. When you are within about a 100 yards really start hitting the hoochie mama and if you need a small bugle then hit the pack bugle and sound like a small bull coming into steal his harem. He will get fighting mad and you will have a chance at him!

BTW: If the bull hangs up at about 60 yards and begins to rake a tree, RUSH HIM! When they are raking a tree, they close their eyes and you have your opportunity to get close quickly, use that time to your advantage!