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Kengston 12-11-2006 11:08 AM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 

ORIGINAL: rather_be_huntin

7mm Rem Mag and 300 RUM.
The 7mm RUM has the same ballistics at 300 or 500yrds as the 300 RUM.I need to find that chart but they are twins with the 7mm RUM having more speed further down the track.

James B 12-11-2006 11:34 AM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 
According to Barnes, the highest ME for the 7MMrum has a bit over 4100 lb ME while the 300 RUM's top load is a bit over 4600 lb ME.

Kengston 12-11-2006 01:17 PM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 
This didn't print out the way I copied and pasted it.
heres the links.
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/comparative_ballistics_results.aspx?data=PRSC7UM1* PR300UM5


http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/comparative_ballistics_results.aspx?data=PR7UM5*PR 300UM4

The high lighted one is the 7mmRUM . Again these are factory remington loads. At 300 yrds allmost identical.From there out the 7mm RUM takes the lead. They are pretty much twinsby the looks of thing.This is for 150 gr.
Energy (ft-lbs)




Cartridge Type
Bullet
Muzzle
100
200
300
400
500

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
3682
3267
2894
2558
2254
1979

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
3964
3427
2956
2541
2175
1852

Short-Range Trajectory




Cartridge Type
Bullet
50
100
150
200
250
300

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
-0.1
0.4
zero
-1.3
-3.6
-7.0

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
0.0
0.3
zero
-1.2
-3.4
-6.7

Long-Range Trajectory




Cartridge Type
Bullet
100
150
200
250
300
400
500

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
1.8
2.2
1.6
zero
-2.6
-11.4
-25.3

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
1.7
2.1
1.5
zero
-2.6
-11.2
-25.3

Below is 175 and 180 gr Rem ammo. They differ some with this heavier weight though.





Velocity (ft/sec)




Cartridge Type
Bullet
Muzzle
100
200
300
400
500

Premier® A-Frame
175 AF PSP
3025
2831
2645
2467
2296
2212

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
180 CLUB
3250
2988
2742
2508
2287
2076



Energy (ft-lbs)




Cartridge Type
Bullet
Muzzle
100
200
300
400
500

Premier® A-Frame
175 AF PSP
3555
3114
2718
2364
2047
1764

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
180 CLUB
4221
3568
3003
2513
2088
1721



Short-Range Trajectory




Cartridge Type
Bullet
50
100
150
200
250
300

Premier® A-Frame
175 AF PSP
0.0
0.6
zero
-1.7
-4.7
-9.0

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
180 CLUB
0.0
0.4
zero
-1.5
-4.2
-8.1



Long-Range Trajectory




Cartridge Type
Bullet
100
150
200
250
300
400
500

Premier® A-Frame
175 AF PSP
2.4
2.8
2.0
zero
-3.4
-14.5
-32.2

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
180 CLUB
2.1
2.5
1.8
zero
-3.1
-13.6
-30.7

To me the 7mmRUM would be a tad cheaper and just as good as the 300 with the heavier bullet.And a bit better in the150gr class at 300yrds and out.

I am curious about hand loads for these 2 though. Could you post something in the reload forum so I can take a look at these comparisons from handloads? Or link me a sight.Thanks.

Chantecler111 12-11-2006 03:22 PM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 
Both the 7mm RUM and the .300 RUM, are not needed, they are just barrel burners based on a elephant gun case, they are expensive to shoot, and offer nothing. I won't own one.

SCOTT78 12-11-2006 05:15 PM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 
That may be true if you are using remington ammo, however if you go to weatherbys website and look at weatherby ammo using a 180 grain partion bullet it has more energy than your 7mm RUM

James B 12-11-2006 11:15 PM

RE: Which two "MAGNUM" rifles for ALL N.A. Big Game?
 
One source would be www.hodgdon.com. Also when you compare the two, be sure you are using bulleys of equal sectional Density, bullet weights in different caliber will not give accurate results for performance. The 168 gr in 30 cal is about equal to the 150 in 7MM the 160 in 7MM would be close to the 180 in the 30 cal.

AK_Zeke 12-20-2006 11:49 PM

RE: Which two MAGNUM rifles for all N.A. Big Game?
 
I've take Alaskan Bull Moose with a .338 Win Mag. 250 grain Sptizer Boattail, Sierra 2600 Bullet, with 73.5 grains of IMR 7828 power. Works for me! ;)

Baleful Scout 12-21-2006 04:18 AM

RE: Which two MAGNUM rifles for all N.A. Big Game?
 
open sight Marlin.44 Remington Magnum
scoped Savage 300 Winchester Magnum

Dubbya 12-26-2006 07:58 PM

RE: Which two MAGNUM rifles for all N.A. Big Game?
 

ORIGINAL: CamoCop

.300 Wby Mag, no need for a second
I second that

358WINMAN 12-26-2006 10:15 PM

RE: Which two MAGNUM rifles for all N.A. Big Game?
 
I don't like to carry alot of weight around when I hunt let alone two rifles!! Therefore; I choose one magnum to take anywhere: my .300 WSM with handloaded ammo.
Load a 180 grain Nosler Part. with RL 22 to 2900+ FPS and you can kill anything.
Take it one step further... Load a 200 grain Nosler Part. with RL 22 to 2800 FPS and you can say "HELLO" to any bear that walks in the US or Canada, let alone knock an Alaskan Yukon moose for loop!
Recoil is very tolerable and the accuracy of this round is excellent!



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