Distemper, parvo,mange, or conical shaped lead projectiles! YEAH!

pro wolf.....anti wolf.....Doesn't matter! What matters is that the Federal government is TELLING the states what to do, or not to do. I say it (the wolf issue) is a state issue, and the feds should stay in D.C., and tend to the national issues. If a state wants bear hunting, or not, like it is in Washington state, that is up to the people of that particular state to decide. Let Id. and Mt. and Wy. decide the wolf issue as it bests suits their citizens, and then let good science guide them in the management of the animals. If a state justhas to havewolves, let them go get some, and start a wolf program. It can't be that hard, USFW managed to pull it off, and they are as polarized a group as they come.

You Want Logic... Shoot Away!!! Get them Back to how they were 15 years ago. There... Yes, But Rarely seen. That's how it supposed to be. Shoot,Shovel and you can guess the rest!!!!!!!!!

well i guess mister edgumacated (brutalattack) has an answer for everything anybody else says.

either way you look at the problem the only solution for right now is killing the wolves. he says the habitat isn't what it should be.....fine. but you can't make food for the elk just appear...but with a carefully placed bullet i can do my part and make a wolf DISAPPEAR!

and as far as what biology studies show i have one big problem with them....what if they are wrong? i have worked for fish and game and one of my best friends what a biologist studying the elk herds and the effect of a pair of mtn. lions in our area. he spent an entire summer out looking for the mtn. lions and he never saw a thing. i went out on my elk hunt in the same area and saw the lions 5 out of six days within half a mile of the elk herd. so what does that tell you about the biologist way of finding predators. to find a predator you have to think like one... and to this day i have never met a predatory biologist.

tangozulu you said "In Northern BC, we have mountains with caribou, moose, elk, deer, sheep, goats,black/grizzly bears and WOLVESall gettin along togetherjust fine". tangozulu, thats great fine and dandy but you live in BC not Idaho, Montana or Wyoming. Thats like saying well because the elephant and lion get together great in africa we should introduce them here in the west to help boost their numbers.You mightsay well thats not their native habitat, well it was for their ancestors. The saber tooth tiger and the wooly mamoth both roamed north america. I am sure they are justlong lost cousins once removed. Being seriousI look foward to the day we can control the wolves just like the coyotes. They get the heck shot out of them buy yet they survive in strong numbers. The wolf would be no different. I agree with others that say well since we can't hunt them we need to support SSS.

I agree, Very good comparison!!!

Maybe some day soon! Screw Jemenez and Bangs! I would love nothing more than to rub thier nose in a dead wolf!

i used to hunt in the selway not anymore . very few elk and when you would find them the wolves were there to. since brutal attack has a answer for everthing i have a ? If the habitat needed to be burned and the blackbear mountain lion where in excessive numbers which were all reducing the elk numbers why in the he@@ did they let another top predator loose in the selway i love to hunt the selway but there just are not elk like years gone by.

Hi,
I was done posting in this worthless topic but you piqued my interest.

There aren't a whole lot of elk up there but if you know where to go you can still do good as I have. I think I might know where you hunted, I ran into alot of WI guys up there about 4 or 5 years ago. Also guided some PA guys.

As for the rest of your question: hindsight is 20/20. The ESA mandates certain recovery actions and we can't always see into the crystal ball and anticipate every outcome. If we did there would be no mistakes.

I'm not going to sit here and be an apologist for wolf reintroduction because I've been a staunch supporter of improving the habitat all along. I did however, feel it was necessary to shed some light on the real reasons for the elk decline long before wolf reintroduction was initialized. I probably won't post in here anymore as it's just feeding the trolls so if you want to talk to me further send me a PM. Thanks.