After reading all this I wasn't going to post anything but what the heck, I'll just tick everybody off. This thread should have been "what's happened to Remington, Winchester, Ruger, Savage and on and on. Tikka has barrels blowing up....thanks alot Beretta....you can't find decent wood on much of anything anymore. We have allowed the manufactures to cut costs by purchasing plastic and laminates instead of steel and wood. All the parts are stamped, triggers are so bad, they make the rifle nearly unshootable. Stocks have so much lacquer on them they look like plastic (or none at all). I'm making myself sick. I am 59 years young and still remember the old Sako's, Steyrs, Parker Hales, Winchesters, Rugers and Remingtons when these rifles were tack driving works of art. Ah the good old days. This is the reason that I collect and shoot older guns. I guess Kimber may be the exception.....anybody had any experience with them??? And finally, the super magnums are out....oh boy are they ever fun to shoot...once! Regards, Rick.