they shoot very good. i have not found the right load with sabots yet. but mine will touch some holes at 80 yards with a patch and ball. using 90 grains of goex with a 2-7 scope. i am very happy with it. easy to hold and shoot. super fast to clean. i don't think you could go wrong for the price. i have quite a few m/ls and it will shoot with the best of them. i was quite surprized.