wow......collected a neat wad the other day.....it was from an OLD OLD winchest double X turkey mag....2 3/4 in 1 5/8 oz of 4s...old red hulls.......it was a clear plastic wrapped around the shot....with a while/clear plastic cap....the clear plastic was wrapped around the shot charge..and the cap over it i think....fired and and saw it fly apart 5yds out....neat..enver saw one like that!!