BDOA, with being an outfitter are you not worried about all the hunters who can't shoot worth a darn no matter what gun they own? I am sure all your clients can talk the talk but few who can back it up. I am no outfitter or guide, but I have done my fair share of taking friends elk hunting with bows, blackpowder, and rifle (guiding for friends, if you want to call it that). Anyway I have seen many come to pieces and loose it when it is showtime and they are asked to perform. An example I remember well is a coworker that I took hunting in 1998. That year I harvested a nice 6x6 bull with my bow in September. Then in october, I went along to help family to hunt for spike bulls and cows rifle hunting. We came home with 4 more elk. My coworker said to me wow I wish I had some elk meat this year. I could sure use it and my wife and kids love eating it. He claimed to be a huge elk hunter but just hadn't had the time to go in the last few years. And he didn't have anyone to go with, since his uncle the hunter in the family moved away. I informed him that there was still time to hunt and I knew a excellent place to go for cows with blackpowder in November, and that I would take him. He didn't have a BlackPowder rifle but I did and we went out and I made him practice until he could hit a milk jug at 100 yards with ease. My father hadn't puched his elk tag yet either, so he came along too for the hunt. To make a long story short on the hunt. I helped my coworker and my dad close the distance on a of herd of 50 or so elk. They ranged from as close to 30 yards out to about 80 yards, all were in black powder range. I handed my co worker the rife and wispered to him to take the gun off safty and aim calmly and shoot the cow he wanted. My dad wanted him to shoot first and then he was going to shoot second. My friend was so excited that the BP barrel was going in circles when he was aiming. I saw him pull the trigger and he jerked the gun very bad. Nothing happened, he forgot to take the safty off, he tried too, but was so rattled he couldn't figure it out. He handed the gun back to me and told me to take the safty off. I did and told him that all he needed to do now was aim and pull the trigger. I told him not to jerk the trigger this time but sqeeze it calmly like he was aiming at the milk jug. I also told him that he needed to hurry up because the elk were starting to look at us. I was using soft cow calls to try to keep them calm and frozen. Anyway he looked at me and said sqeeze it, you mean like this, at which he pulled the trigger......BANG.... the gun went off strait up in the air. (Thank heavens) My dad thinking quickly did pick out a close cow and with one shot put it down. Later that night my coworker admited to us that he had only shot one elk in his whole life with his uncle back when he was young. But that he was not 100% sure he killed it because he and his uncle and someone else were all shooting at it. But because he was using a 7 mag and they were using 30-06's and the elk was suppose to be 300 yards away they all thought he killed it. He also admited to me that the elk he killed when he was young was the closest he had ever been to an elk before today. And that he was just amazed and excited that we could sneek that close to an animal like an elk. He also admited he hadnt been hunting at all for anything since highschool with his uncle. I still tried to help him kill an elk that year, and he never did but he still got some elk meat from us. Anyway I learned to not always believe what people think to be true. In his mind he was a huge hunter, and to tell him otherwise well that could have led to a fight and would have insulted him. But in reality he wasn't much of a hunter at all. I bet you guide a lot of people like this that think they know it all and have a lot of expreience but in reality its far different from what they say or think. I guess I would worry about what type of hunter I was guiding if they were packing a .243 for moose. I would also worry about the type packing a .375 H&H or bigger. Do you tell them if they wound an animal that you will finish it off? Sorry for being so long winded. Thanks Jason!