too expensive for me.....if i tested many loads and had extras just laying around i would....done it to many shot shells.....love the ones with the totally cheap EVERYTHING....love the cheesy wads ive pulled out of some....i also do look at wads i find from the diffrent loads.....ive found better wads from cheap cheap dove loads compared to one of my loads i did test this year...not sure what it came out of though.....i had 2 clear wads and flight controls laying out there....not sure if it was rem or fed....but it was generic...splits went clear down the side...had no base...nothing...piece of thin plastic with 4 splits clear down the sides.....flight controls look nasty.....i want to get a film of one going through the air in slow motion....no lie i had them hit targets at 30yds.....and go through at 25yds.....i also love the look of copper plated #4s....plain nasty looking......