Thanks Buckfevr. I understand that a little longer loop will help get my hand anchor point further back/lengthened. But..I also like to use the tip of my nose as another reference point. I think the only way to move that point rearward to get contact is to lengthen bow draw or bend my arm a bit more. I think I'm OK there...maybe a touch short but since I'm exclusively a hunter I think this is preferable. I do want to understand your comment on overrotating the cam without affecting performance. Would that be accomplished by letting twists out of the cable?? Doesn't that also lengthen the ATA.?