Getting the permit is chore enough. Took me six months before I had an interview the state police for my permit. The trooper had a big dislike for my Dad, and denied it. The county judge is a very good friend of the family, told me if I really wanted it he could over-rule the trooper or I could wait another six months and try again.

Because of some political BS between the judge and the troopers at that time, I chose to wait.

Its the one thing I do not miss about NY.

This was in St. Lawrence County.