No Excuses Conicals
Since I only shoot 85 grains of Goex 3f or Triple Se7en FFg the recoil is not all that bad at all. I have never tried to push them harder. On some different boards I had read how White Rifle shooters were able to shoot these conicals with such amazing accuracy with such a medium range charge. Well come to find out because of their weight, they still retain a lot of energy even at long ranges.
I ordered my first box for my scoped Black Diamond XR and after about the third shot I could not believe how well they shot. They are slip fit like a powerbelt so they are easy to load and I have never had them come off the charge. Although I admit I have never tried to intentionally shake them off a load. I should actually do that.
Last year after walking in to the stand and climbing up into the tree I checked them with the ramrod to make sure they were still on the load and discovered they had not moved.
The Conicals sell for $19.95 and I think with shipping they were around $26.00 for 50 of them which make them half the price of powerbelts. They come pre-lubed. I am going to give them a test with wads under them this spring when the 100 yard range opens up.
Before I put the RED DOT on my Knight Wolverine II I tried them at the 50 yard line. I shot clover leafs with open sights (although I love the sights on that Wolverine). Due to running low on them and needing them for hunting I did not test more. And I use Barnes Expanders out of the Wolverine for a hunting load.
If you have never tried them, it would be worth giving them a try. With your excellent quality rifles I would be interested in how well they shoot for you. I have not pushed them harder, but I have read and followed your posts and I am sure you would have to try...

That would really be interesting.