Randy, no offense taken and I totally agree that we should be taught by family members or a good friend providing that those individuals have good ethics. Some youngsters are fortunate to have a mentor to teach them such qualities and some don't. What I am concerned about is those youngsters that don't have a mentor or a roll model to teach them the difference. I started bowhunting in '69 as I got introduced to the sport by a high skool friend, I didn't have any ethics at that time, I just wanted to get an animal. I just didn't know any better, I am ashamed to admit it but as I was growing up I had no respect for private property and tresspassed to hunt prime hog/deer, just because my buddies did it. I would go hunting and be hunted at the same time and finally got caught and spent the night in jail and was charged with armed tresspassing. Not too good. Got an attorney and got the charges dropped to simple tresspassing and now I have no criminal record supposely, but when I go across the border the question they ask me is, "If I have ever been arrested"? Why am I telling you this for? Because some kids grow up not knowing the difference and just accept what there peers do. That is why I made the comment about the gun toten, beer drinkin individual, sometimes we are taught a bad influence and just don't know the diff. I never had a dad to show me any difference and just learned hunting ethics from my friend, some friend right ? I am not tring to take the place of what ethics you as a dad is teaching as opposed to those individuals such as myself when I grew up when I wasn't near as fortunate to have a GOOD Mentor. I am tring to reach out to those kids that remind me of myself, not take your place as a dad. I just wanted you to know where I was coming from. Take care.

Charliep, I'm not even going to go there. Good Day!!!