Thanks guy's,I was under the impression that the one piece was better.( Maybe I just convinced myself of it.....LOL)What would you reccomend as far as brand goes being the strongest? As far as the optics goes I don't lay down when it comes to my glass,But I usually don't go crazy either .I probally will be doing some paper punching ( maybe up to 500 yds. or as far as I can shoot a decent group) with it as well as hunting with it some if it turns out to be as accurate as the rem mag..So I am wondering if the 12 x is enough .I have a 3.5 x 10 x 50 Leupold on my rem mag.And it leaves a little to be desired at 400 + the heavy duplex might have something to do with it...SWAMP