Sorry 121553, didn't mean to offend you. But seriously, where did you pick up your ethics? I know that I didn't clone my views from a single "gun toten, beer drinkin, citizen band relative" I took a tid bit from several "gun toten, beer drinkin, citizen band relatives". You only develope morally sound ethics when you learn to love and respect the outdoors and everything that it consists of. That passion isn't found in a classroom. I've grown up around hunting all of my life, and although I don't agree 100% with any friend or relative, I do owe my ethical standpoint to them, because they were the ones who helped me develope my respect for the outdoors. (I can barely recall my hunters safety course). If you want to make a differance, take these kids hunting with you and teach them first hand.
I agree that we need to set good examples and teach what we can to each and every person that we come in contact with. I just don't think its this scenario vs. that scenario. It's all about what you feel inside. I try to convey that to all I come in contact with, especially those that have "gun toten, beer drinkin, citizen band relatives" manipulating their young minds. Unfortunatly, the couple of kids I took out who had fathers like you so vividly explained, turned out just like their father. Wish my words and my ways could have changed theirs but the family bond is a powerfull thing. Fortunatly, potching laws are helping our sport weed out these types of influences around my parts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm simply saying that in order to solve the problem you must get to the root of it, if you want to make a lasting impression.

Power to you fellas for trying. We need more like you!