I had my red dot scoped switched from my muzzle loader to my Nova and did some patterning this weekend to get the scope dialed in. I started out with 3 inch Winchester double magum #5s to get zeroed in and then switched to my 3.5 inch Nitro 4x5x7 shells. At 20 yards the Winchesters put out a nice pattern and the Nitro puched a hole the size of a golf ball with a nice pattern around it. At 41 yards (measured with a range finder) the Winchesters put around 40 pellets in a 10 inch circle and the Nitros put 367 pellets in a 10 inch circle. Just thought some of you might be interested.