Yeah I have shot and cleaned and brushed and mounted scope after scope and after about 3 to 4 boxes of ammo in different loads I still can't get but about a 4" group at a 100 yards. You might put 2 holes just about touching then the next one might be 3 to 4 inches off. I might have been expecting to much out of this Handi-Rifle, but everyone I had talked to that had one said they really shot good, anyway its on its way back to the gunshop tomorrow, I have talked with the owner which is a buddy of mine, said he would do something, I will probably swap it for another gun, maybe another HR.