Rick, Like you I have great hunting, and yes there are still some good places to hunt in York co. (which I dont need to hunt) but just because our current plan doesnt currently affect you or I doesnt mean that we should turn our backs on the majority of hunter's in PA. York Co's goal is 5 deer per sqaure mile, how may more year's of HR. is it going to take turn the places in York co. you speak of into poor hunting? PIke