the whole group going is in pretty dang good shape, so that's not the worry. We are going up to scout in august for a few days, and we would kind of like to have an idea of somewhere we could set up camp and hit the hills right away, instead of wasting time driving around looking for somewhere and not getting much done. Know any good camp sites? are there forest roads at all? that maybe we could drive to the end of and camp at the gate? any suggestions from anyone on a good place?