thank you that is great for all the help you guys have gave especialy you Champlain Islander so here are the votes so far Pflueger president/ and Bass Pro Extreme XPS combo has 1 vote and the Quantum Accurist/ Bass Pro Extreme XPS has 1 vote and the ambassadeur has zero so that is whats going on so far i am waiting for my bass pro magizine so that is good so keep voting because every bit of info is great.