Well Phade I guess I'm a blooming Igit. For some reason I always thought the DEC's main mgmt tool was harvesting deer, and the past several seasons the DEC has pushed to Harvest MORE deer to control this very overwhelming deer population we have! So I guess thats the reason why they want to implement this 7 day doe only ML season, becasue us Bowhunters can't control it. Just like you said. I guess that fits the puzzle perfectly even after lowering DMP's in 2004, and for 2005. So now lets give us this extra 7 day ML season for doe only, and you can still bowhunt those 7 days, BUT ONLY WITH DMP AND DMAP TAGS! Under the latest proposal. Gee how many hunters will get the shaft on this deal. So this doesn't even cover the tags you pay extra for to use the special seasons to begin with! Now a ML hunter has to buy his license, and get his 2 either sex and antlerless only tags, and still has to hope for a DMP in his hunting area to even get to use his license for those 7 days. Yup that makes alot of good deer mgmt regulated sense to me!!!!!!!!