It appears we found a winner, the red osier dogwood. I got quite a bit of it in the front of my property and maybe with some tending I could transplant some it while maintaining some control. The only problem is the berries are gone by end of September. I was grouse hunting on some state land 2 weeks ago and there was this brush with a bright red berry that grew in clumps, 3/8" dia., had thorns and had branches that were light tan.
Visited my place this past weekend and for the second winter in a row the deer are wintering in my woods. There were tracks everywhere and quite a parade by most of my fixed stands. The snow didn't seem to be causing the deer any great problems, they were able to scrape to the bare ground and their tracks showed them moving from stump to stump eating browse. Should be another good year this fall.