Good reply Adrian!!I agree, no one should neccessarily downgrade these hunters but my point is when I watch a show or video that shows a fella shoot 3 times at a running gobbler hitting not only him but other birds around him(hens included its not worth watching to me!And yes I've seen a # of them that do!!

I've also had the opportunity to hunt Texas and no question it has places full of lonely gobblin birds!In my mind a turkey hunters dream,and nobody should hold any grudges against those that hunt and find such places, more power to em.In fact if you can afford it I'd say give it a try!
Adrian I've hunted turks for awhile in my home state and no question private land holds the premium huntin here!Obviousily its not that way all across the country but it is slowly becoming that way everywhere!Most of our land is leased to private groups and huntin clubs locking the potential hunter out!So consider yourself somewhat lucky!I spend a hefty chunk of change just to be able to hunt property that is only 10 miles from my house and than buy into a club on top of that!!Pay to play is becoming the majority,just look at Texas!!!We have leases here and I know for fact other states do also offer these same type of non hunted birds,it just costs money and time!And if I had it I'd do it more!!!