lol....I hate being one to follow the crowd (of course in my area I am not) but I just don't understand how someone could shoot that bow and not think it's a quality piece of equipment. I know we are all different and we all have our likes and dislikes but I can't help but think their is something wrong with someone that could shoot either of the two of those bows and not agree that they are a quality piece of equipment. I am not buying one because I would rather spend the money on a hunting trip but it really is an enjoyeable bow to shoot. My shoulders have gotten better in the last couple of years after stepping back down to 70 lbs but I still have some trouble on days that I shoot a lot. But I think I could shoot the Allegiance or the Old Glory all day. I just really like the draw cycle. DC, go shoot one about 50 shots and if you don't agree and I will buy you a stick of your favorite deodorant