I try to leave my truck for my best spot an hour and 15 minutes before legal shooting time. This puts me in my tree quiet and ready to go with 45 minutes to sit and wait. I really like this spot because its close to the truck and very predictable! As soon as the sun just starts peekin' over the treetops then the deer come thru! I park off the road and have to go straight up a huge ridge. talk about a ballbuster! I can wear a tshirt in 10 degree weather, climb the ridge and still be sweatin! Needless to say I have this spot all to myself for bowhunting! I wish I was goin' there in the morning!!!!!! Good luck