Thanks for the information, I am new to the forum and to muzzle loading this has been a great help. I did shoot some of the shockwave 250 grain this morning and found that they shoot very well with 90 grains of loose 777. Mostly same hole slightly enlarged at 50 yards and about 2" at 100 yards. Had about 15 mph wind so I am satisfied. Our muzzle loading season gives us a week after regular gun season, and this begins on monday, either sex for 7 days. I live in North Louisiana and we even are expected to have 4 days of sub freezing mornings. Better than those days of bugs buzzing your ears.

Thanks again