I will take luck any day. I have had just as good of luck with Savage rifles.Weather Mark five is the worst rifle I have had to date. It would not group with anything and had a two man trigger. I had a 788 that would not group until I added a little to the pressure point. I know I have had 20 model 700's from 222 to 300 win Mag. I have had six or more 700 classics as well. There must be a reason that Remington leads the poll on this site.