lemond33, generally they go for $550. More people probably shoot the comparable Mmmmaaaatthhh. With the Patriot I think alot of hunters overlook the MM. It's a great, short bow. They shoot very well, and are as accurate as any bow in the 31" ATA range. I really like mine. With limb savers, a good stabilizer, and whiskers they are pretty quiet, and recoil is not bad. Remember, a 60#er will shoot over 300 fps. Mine with a 375 gr arrow shoots low to mid 270s at 60#. Try one out if you get the chance, I think you'll see it's a fine bow. as good as any in it's class.

Phil.