I bought a condor cable climber last year from bass pro (not the light aluminum one either) It was the biggest peice of **** I ever wasted money on price is right thats what got me it looked as good as any other one in th catalog and I was so excited to get one I always wanted a climber to be stealth and mobile and for $129. but let me warn you you get what you pay for. It weighed 32lbs. it felt like 50 the quality was really bad the hole for the pins were flanged on the inside so I could'nt slide the cable through the channels once I did get them through trying to line up the eyelet at the end of the cable to the hole was another pain in the butt,and its very cumbersome to haul and to set up noisy.I used it once and the rivet that holds the boot strap on broke with me 18ft. up in a tree.You have to take the arm pads off to use the pins (more noise velcro)I sent it back and got a refund. As far as climbers go I feel the one I had is a bad representation of one. Id save my money and buy a better lighter,quieter,more portable one.